SE enough of the treadmill, please make the game more interesting!

[Zarzak]

I try WoW for the first time yesterday and I am so surprised they have so much element like race stat and traits and nature element all those stuff... Compare ffxiv i say they are too slack on it is like 1% compare to wow if they want to keep the interest any long they need to add fire water earth and wind as a new gear stat and make it huge different in the future

Elemental stats have not mattered in WoW for years... In original sure... But that went the way of everything else in favor of making it so easy a caveman can do it.

No one would deny that modern MMOs aren't grindy. What I will say is that modern MMOs are better at hiding the grind because they give you context and objectives for the grind instead of throwing you out there and having you kill the same mob over and over ad nauseam to get anything done.

So you're hailing something that has no context with a tendency to drive a normal person to tears as better than something that has context and an objective built in with clear labels for progression and a reward at the end that more often than not is reasonable for the time spent (Atma grinds notwithstanding). And then you say you don't have rose-colored goggles on.

Yes. Because you weren't FORCED to do anything to progress. Literally EVERY activity within the game would progress your character. Pick among 20+ zones and likely 20+ camps per zone and go to town. At your own pace. And that is just if you're talking exp being the focus of your day. Want to go back a few expansions and try and 1 group old raid bosses? Still going to progress your character.

WoW made popular the "weekly reset" and it is the biggest pain in the ass ever. "Get your 450 currency before Tuesday or your SoL. Oh and btw the only way to get it is to do 45 S-ranks/Coils or do the same 100% scripted dungeons over and over.



For the record the relic is a terrible example of any of this. There is 0 challenge. The highest end content the relic weapon requires is the very 1st step to kill the hard mode primals. Instead of needing the fang of twintania or something I am apparently making the ultimate weapon by killing level 4 fates.