SE enough of the treadmill, please make the game more interesting!

[Tiggy]

see any dungeon drop after Darklight and before AF1.5. That gear was never relevant..

A great way to level desyth from the 60's and up, GC points that continue to remain relevant, and brand new players who don't yet have any currency stored or haven't had a chance to complete the 110 set yet since that takes time farming.

Come on man. It's very relevant. More relevant today than it ever was. The premise of your argument is false.

[Nalien]

Come on man. It's very relevant. More relevant today than it ever was. The premise of your argument is false.

That gear is solely relevant for Glamour, that's the only reason someone would actively farm the gear. Desynthesis is a joke to level and I seriously doubt anyone leveled it by farming such gear when there are far easier methods available, same for Company Seals. Haven't gotten i110 yet? Do Scyrus Tower and get i100 and upgrade items for i110, no idea why you'd opt to spam The Lost City instead.

Outside Glamour its relevance is utterly fleeting and certainly not something you'd go out of your way to obtain. It's a nice bonus if you're still gearing up or for desynth/Seals, but compared to the main pieces of gear in this game, its relevance is microscopic.

[Tiggy]

That gear is solely relevant for Glamour, that's the only reason someone would actively farm the gear.

False. I know a few people this week that farmed them for points and for desynth. You're making assumptions about how people play.

Desynthesis is a joke to level and I seriously doubt anyone leveled it by farming such gear when there are far easier methods available, same for Company Seals.

Also false, some of the desynth categories don't have extremely easy options in the 60/70s. Many of the desynth categories are very tough after this point. Getting gear from dungeons is a perfectly viable form of supplementing desynth leveling.
As for company seals 1 drop from the expert roulette gives over 1k seals for 1 item. This is very effective for farming seals. Is it as fast as fate farming? Probably not, but it doesn't have to be the best to be viable and useful for people. Many people don't touch fates and only get GC from item turn ins.

Haven't gotten i110 yet? Do Scyrus Tower and get i100 and upgrade items for i110, no idea why you'd opt to spam The Lost City instead.

You need a certain ilevel to even enter those dungeons. Newer players won't yet have that yet. So that gear from the first few 50 dungeons will help them get to those higher level dungeons. Making that gear useful for standard leveling and gearing purposes however fleeting that may be.

You're ignoring valid uses for this gear simply because you want to ignore it to fit your narrative. Not because they are genuinely invalid.

[Nalien]

You need a certain ilevel to even enter those dungeons. Newer players won't yet have that yet. So that gear from the first few 50 dungeons will help them get to those higher level dungeons. Making that gear useful for standard leveling and gearing purposes however fleeting that may be.

First few level 50 dungeons fall in the range of "after Darklight and before AF1.5"? Those were my exact words, and I mean them, I am talking specifically about gear like Shikaree's Doublet and Shirt Of The Divine Light. Crap from Amdapor Keep and Wanderers Palace are perfectly valid for a newb 50. Gear drops from Lost City are not. At that point you have vastly better options available to you, and even if you didn't, that gears drop rate is so pathetic that you'll be buying gear with tomestones before you see any of it actually drop.

As for company seals 1 drop from the expert roulette gives over 1k seals for 1 item. This is very effective for farming seals. Is it as fast as fate farming? Probably not, but it doesn't have to be the best to be viable and useful for people. Many people don't touch fates and only get GC from item turn ins.

FATE farming? Who'd bother with that. Go buy a stack of Hippo Leather and Sinew and just earn 1k seals/minute.

As for desynth. Darklight and Heroes/AF1.5 are great. Everything in between is fairly irrelevant. Again, my exact words were "after Darklight and before AF1.5".

[Tiggy]

Again, my exact words were "after Darklight and before AF1.5".

No your exact words were..

That gear is solely relevant for Glamour, that's the only reason someone would actively farm the gear.

To which you now want to nit pick the details of my examples. The fact remains I presented reasonable uses for the gear in the face of your glamor only argument.

In addition having multiple ways of obtaining something (gc seals) doesn't invalidate other methods. Some people don't want to do the hippo leather. Some people use that method AND sell gear from dungeons and do both. The point remains that it's a valid way to get GC. Other methods in no way change the validity of this one or it's effectiveness.

[Nalien]

To which you now want to nit pick the details of my examples.

Because your examples are simply wrong given the context of what I initially said? You're talking about the first few Lv50 dungeons, I was talking about Lost City and Hullbreaker tier of dungeons.

If someone is actually farming Shikaree's Doublets to level Weaver desynth, well... Props to them, seems like a massive waste of time considering gear at that tier doesn't even drop 90% of the time, but whatever. For Seals... You'd be better off farming the actual materials from the dungeon, rather than the Seals from the gear... Again though, that's a nice little bonus rather than making the gear relevant. Especially considering I was talking about the gear being relevant as gear.

[Felis]

Haven't gotten i110 yet? Do Scyrus Tower and get i100 and upgrade items for i110, no idea why you'd opt to spam The Lost City instead.

You need ilevel 70 for ST
ST make ilevel 70 gear relevant, if you have still gear under ilevel 70.