SE enough of the treadmill, please make the game more interesting!

[Xatsh]

horizontal progression is duuuuuuuuuumb. no one wants to spend all that time on gear that is a sidegrade. if you are one of the few people that do then FFXI is right there, go play it. FF14 is far more successful than 11 was they have no reason to go back to the model when the one being used in 14 is a proven success.

If you think horizontal development was a negative in XI you do not know the genre. People did not flock to WoW and XIV because of vertical progression they flocked to them because it was a mmo that you could play without dedicating 30-40hrs a week to it. XI was not as popular as XIV because you needed at least 6 ppl to do anything. (Almost no solo content). The activities took on average 2-4hrs at the min to do on a night. Vs XIV's 30-50min raids. Aka it was not casual friendly at all, XI was a hardcore game to its core requiring massive time commitments to do anything. With vertical progression in XIV now what would happen to the population if you needed to be able to play for the min of 4hrs a night to do 1 dungeon or raid and there was no solo content past level 10? most the population would quit.

People would want to spend the time to get something if it never goes away. Right now think about it we spend 100s of hours in coil, millions to get better gear. And what happens in 6 months.... it is all vendor trash every bit of it. Where is the incentive to get stuff today when it will be garbage gear tomorrow.

As for going back to XI. You realize XI is almost the same as XIV in content now right. Low Man, Item Levels, little to no guild focus, single gear pieces that are BIS for almost everything. SE killed of XI, even if the XI fanboys wanted to go back the game is gone. XI-2 is not XI. just like Star Wars Galaxy was not the same when they redid the whole thing.

[Zumi]

As for going back to XI. You realize XI is almost the same as XIV in content now right. Low Man, Item Levels, little to no guild focus, single gear pieces that are BIS for almost everything. SE killed of XI, even if the XI fanboys wanted to go back the game is gone. XI-2 is not XI. just like Star Wars Galaxy was not the same when they redid the whole thing.

XI has a bunch of free weeks. Which I took advantage of and beat all the new Seekers missions and see the story line. More or less its the exact same game only with more spells, weapon skills and abilities. The item level cap has not raised from 119 for the past 2 years. You have basically the same amount of choices you have for gear that you had at the previous 75 and 99 caps.

The game is still very unfriendly to the solo player. You can't solo anything if you want to do endgame. To do any of the new endgame stuff you need either a party of 6 or an alliance for the harder stuff delve and incursion. There is only a couple of LS that actually do hardcore stuff per server and most of them don't want new members. Having such a high barrier of entry to do any of the new content makes a lot of people leave the game and being a old game they aren't going to attract any new players.

The content in FF14 is far more accessible. When I was doing the Seekers story mission the boss Balamor took 14 hours to do, he isn't even the last boss either. I shouted in town, for people several hours to form a group. 4 hours were spent shouting for people. We wiped about 10 times due to the whm being bad, every wipe ment we had to farm mobs for a new entry item and wait for our 1 hour abilities to come back up. If this was FF14 I could just of queued up and got another group lol. Probably one of the reasons only the hardcore FF11 fans still play the game. I don't think people enjoy shouting in town for hours to do story missions.