Wolves Den !

[RisingDragoon]

have you ever considered that mayyyybe people don't do WD anymore because it's not really funny ?

The name of this thread is Wolves Den and pretty much everyone here is talking about the stupid ques times or even if you could get premade parties there is still a long que times. I find WD fun and i know many others who also feel the same way, Id like to have less obstacles to get into wolves den.

Frontlines is just filled with idiots wanting to show off who can feed the other teams first and lazy people who camp at a flag and run off when a 1 enemy shows up. In WD you cant do that and everybody has to think and pull their own weight. I really do enjoy WD and Id like for a working df to let me play the game I like without waiting for a extra 10min to do so. Having a healer die in the first 10 secs suck but even still the same happens in boss fights and dungeons but I bet you dont rage quit every time a healer makes a mistake?

[RisingDragoon]

I think what would really fix WD is more rewards than just glamours, maybe more things like Mounts, furnishings, minions, etc. something for the PVE players to really be motivated into trying and learning pvp. I personally think the pvp gear and warhorse are sweet but I find PVP more fun than most other content thats just the same boring dungeons over and over and I bet if it wasn't for the drops and tomes almost nobody would do ever them more than once.

I also think that it suks that PVP gets almost nothing every patch and it really should have some new arenas, I think having a primal themed arena, hell they could pretty much reuse most the primal fights seeing as they are all circular like current arena, just add some walls and done. I'm just saying they clearly don't seem to put much support toward it so thats a nice way to recycle old assets to please the small and ignored pvp community.

[RisingDragoon]

Another feature Id like is a Lobby at the wolves den where players can just set up teams and fight without waiting in DF, I imagine something simialr to each turn of coil before it was put in df (wineport for first turn, Fallgourd for second turn). I feel like having these will allow the PVP community a real place to meet up and form parties or even to set up WD matches with certain conditions like No healing, 1v1, 2v2v2, matches where everyone get 1 phoenix down. something to switch up the gameplay.

[RisingDragoon]

I came up with a few (probably too many) ideas to fix WD and make it more fun and different imo. Im sure many other posts and threads have also been already done to help improve PVP in XIV but sometimes it seems parts of this forum are just vanity to make us feel important. Im sure this isn't the first place that some one has mentioned to get rid of the dumb ranks that interfere with the DF que times and yet they are still there. SE, Yoshi P, GMs, someone If you do anything atleast just get rid of the stupid rank restrictions in the DF so the people who actually want to play can just play!

~~~sorry for the walls and walls of text ~~

[Ultimatecalibur]

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And all the current 4v4 Wolf's Den amounts to is which team can kill the other team's healer first and then clean up from there. There is little chance of recovery, turn a rounds or other things that would make matches interesting.

[SeleniaArgon]

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And all the current 4v4 Wolf's Den amounts to is which team can kill the other team's healer first and then clean up from there. There is little chance of recovery, turn a rounds or other things that would make matches interesting.

I think you are just unexperienced in wolves den to say that... If u think 4v4 is just rush the healer like nobrains... but no problem...



Sieghilde Schtauffen

[RikkCavalier]

I would like one vs one pvp as well! And why does it have to be in an instance? Why cant we request to duel someone anywhere? I'd love to settle a score in the midst of East Hawker's Alley!!

Also, Frontline queues are horrible as well, it's not just WD. During non-peak times, FL queues are over an hour easily. It's hard to get a match in the morning before work.

[Sanghelios]

But unfortunately thats pretty much it. When Wolfs Den comes down to one major rule, than it is "Kill the Healer first". Sure you can kill dds first or whatever, but ya, the team wich looses thier healer first will most likely loose the match.

[kensatsu]

Btw you can say that about frontline too, even worst when 5 or 6 ppl focus a healer die can be fast

[RisingDragoon]

True and the same thing can be said for most PVE content when you healer dies (unless there is a smn) but that is what PVP skills are for, and 1 healer in Frontlines is never going to be enough. I've had some Frontline matches with where our 3 healers all die before the enemies 2 healers. The thing is you have to predict how the enemy will move and be able you use all your skills and make good use of their additional effects (Blizzard 2 = bind, Stone 1 = heavy, Ruin 2 = blind, etc). Personally I feel like this is what separates the repetitive PVE mobs that are so predictable and ready to roll over to let you win, also there is no tutorial videos on how to beat Maelstrom.

Also another idea was from the last live letter about allowing players to jump data centers so that DF ques arn't impossible at certain times of the night. If PVP had its own version of this then that could definitely help.