So the DF still penalized me for a stupid reason because of the system.

[Huntington]

I honestly don't remember far back enough how the DF system was working when you quit out of a duty months ago, but I think it still gave you a 30 minute penalty if you were the first one to quit out of the full party, but there wouldn't be any strikes.

So now we have 3 strikes before you could get locked out for 30 minutes for each decline of a DF prompt as corrected to me by RiceisNice, on top of the usual 30 minute penalty for being the first one to leave.

So I am doing T7 with one friend, we go in, get 6 other people. The runs are going terribly, after several wipes, one person leaves and there is now 7 people in the Duty. (They should have gotten the 30 minute penalty and no one else if everyone else also subsequently leaves.)
I realize it isn't going to work, so I walk out the front door and leave. Soon as I go to sign up again having switched Jobs, I see I have a 30 minute penalty for quitting, when someone else already did it before me.

Excuse me for not being telepathic and knowing that someone was going to join at the exact same damn time as I leave Duty Finder, this has happened before the Strike system was in place and crap like this still happens.

I don't deserve a 30 minute ban for quitting if I'm not the first one to do so, someone else already left and it was a 7-man party, and there's no way in hell I can predict if someone is immediately going to refill the empty spot, thereby giving me a penalty then as well just as soon as I go to leave.

Fix this SE, it's bull****.

[RiceisNice]

... 3 strikes before you could get locked out for an entire day if you withdraw from Duty Commence....

It's 3 strikes before it starts enforcing the 30 minute lockout for declining DF prompts, which lasts until the "strike reset".

As for you getting a 30 minute lock out cause someone else joined in as you left...well tough luck. That hasn't been changed for a long time now. Could've just done a vote for abandon instead.

[coldreactive]

It's 3 strikes before it starts enforcing the 30 minute lockout for declining DF prompts, which lasts until the "strike reset".

As for you getting a 30 minute lock out cause someone else joined in as you left...well tough luck. That hasn't been changed for a long time now. Could've just done a vote for abandon instead.

Indeed. I also would like it if the time was reduced from 45 to 30 seconds instead.

[ladyJ]

vote abandon works.... if you are bailing on parties because you are too elite for the parties then you deserve to take the kick in the @ss its a 3 strike rule if you bail 3 times on people well you got it coming. this game is about community not how much you polish your sword to make it shiny LOL

[Huntington]

It's 3 strikes before it starts enforcing the 30 minute lockout for declining DF prompts, which lasts until the "strike reset".

As for you getting a 30 minute lock out cause someone else joined in as you left...well tough luck. That hasn't been changed for a long time now. Could've just done a vote for abandon instead.

So where did the lockout for a day theory come from if it's only a 30 minute lockout each time you decline DF prompts?

And most likely have it end up being rejected, then I'm forced to waste more time wiping because one of two people still think the run is possible, and judging from how it was going before I left, there was no chance whatsoever.

[Huntington]

vote abandon works.... if you are bailing on parties because you are too elite for the parties then you deserve to take the kick in the @ss its a 3 strike rule if you bail 3 times on people well you got it coming. this game is about community not how much you polish your sword to make it shiny LOL

I literally got Vertigo looking at what you just typed.

Stop being typical tough-guy illiterate and add something useful.

[Viridiana]

I'm reasonably certain you can leave coil by entering the DF pane and hitting Leave, which would be faster than walking out the front door. Less time for someone to join means it's less likely you get a 30 min lockout.

[Huntington]

I'm reasonably certain you can leave coil by entering the DF pane and hitting Leave, which would be faster than walking out the front door. Less time for someone to join means it's less likely you get a 30 min lockout.

We just wiped and were at the very entrance where you start, walking out took less than a few seconds, and since I'm on PS4 and not PC master race, I doubt I could have sifted through the panes fast enough to hit leave over just walking out.

[gamesmart]

DF has always worked like this - leave a party that's full, you get penalty regardless of if someone previously left. You should be aware of that risk if you're leaving an instance like that. And I'd rather see it stay that way, I don't want to see someone leave, then someone join, complain about the dungeon, and leave with no penalty so they can just go back in queue again.

[Huntington]

/snip

There isn't anyway you can tell if someone joins in right that second. And you're not seeing the point I'm making.

There should be a penalty for the first person that quits if the party is full, each and every time. If someone quits and there are 7 people, you should not get penalized for leaving if you leave within a determined amount of time after the first person left, say, 5 seconds or so. That way if someone leaves, you begin leaving, and just as you do leave, you cannot get a penalty if someone joins just that moment since you cannot tell that anyone had even joined by that point.