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    My dog is small and he has a very loud and deep bark, so I disagree, size is not relevant to deepness, it has to do vocal cord sizes
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    I used to have a small, older, Filipino male co-worker who was only 5' tall, but had an incredible deep voice. When he was heard on the loud speaker, you'd expect a hulking beast of a man, but turned out to be a miniscule lil' dude! It was just funny how much contrast his voice was to his stature. Small dudes can have deep voices. I could even imagine midgets or little people as they like to be called, having deep voices, too.
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    Still not as bad as plainsfolks, but yeah it doesn't fit the race at all.
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    The size of the body does not necessarily have that great an effect on the deepness of the voice. The tautness of the vocal cords is the important thing, and if Lala males' voices deepen in the same way that human males' voices deepen, they'd sound pretty similar.

    Just look to real life dwarf actors to get an idea of what I mean. Male dwarves voices cover the same vocal range as other human males.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Male dwarves voices cover the same vocal range as other human males.
    that depends on what type of dwarfism they have. Compare Verne Troyer to Peter Dinkledge for an example of what I mean. It really does have to do with vocal cord size.

    That said, even some of the Lala NPCs official voices can be jarring. The Japanese version has the unique distinction of having a character whose voice is actually DEEPER in Japanese than it is in English, which almost never happens. It was extremely jarring to hear a stereotypical old man voice coming out of a tiny lala, especially since Papalymo's voice fits his size pretty well in both English and Japanese.
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    Tea Mysidia
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    I had a deep voiced Lalafell. It crept the hell out of his village so he was forced to move to Eorzea. There he dranked some booze and woke up as a mi'qote girl. More info on my blog.
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    Totally disagree with OP. One of the main traits of the race is how incredible jarring it is. Lalafell looks cute and small, childlike even, yet you only need to pay a little bit of attention to see lots of examples of lalafell commiting crimes, consuming alcoholic drinks, making sexual advancements to other characters, spilling innuendos left and right, and many, many more. Is truly both an amusing and surprising contrast.

    I actually love how SE went out of the way to hammer the point that they are adult individuals, more akin to classic dwarfs, by being familiars, crafty and ,in the case of Ul'dah's citizens, very greedy

    Them having deep voices is not only possible as said before, but by virtue of being a fantasy game SE is able to take some liberties anyway. But what make them more appropiate is that the deep voices perfectly represent one of the most amusing characterist of the race. If we were to take it away it would just make them a bit more generic cutesy fairy like race.
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    Last edited by Elgeron; 11-24-2014 at 03:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    Totally disagree with OP. One of the main traits of the race is how incredible jarring it is.
    Only one problem; none of the english voice-overs (never listened to japanese version) for lalafells sound like that. Not even Teledji Adeledji sounds anywhere near that level. Some of the players' choice for lalafell voices could compete with Michael Clarke Duncan. Lalafells with deep voices are not canon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    Lalafell looks cute and small, childlike even, yet you only need to pay a little bit of attention to see lots of examples of lalafell commiting crimes, consuming alcoholic drinks, making sexual advancements to other characters, spilling innuendos left and right, and many, many more. Is truly both an amusing and surprising contrast.

    I actually love how SE went out of the way to hammer the point that they are adult individuals, more akin to classic dwarfs, by being familiars, crafty and ,in the case of Ul'dah's citizens, very greedy
    Keep in mind that all other races do pretty much the same. Lalafells however have a very playful manner to their adulthood, even in some serious situations. Just take a look at the male lalafell emotes, and compare them to any other race. I would like for you to explain to me how someone who jumps up and down to wave to someone, who spins around in a circle when they are happy, who flaps their arms around like a bird with boneless wings is more masculine than a highlander who puts a lot of emphasis into displaying their natural vigor in their emotes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    If we were to take it away...
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    Would some people rage if emotes changed? Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Backflippinbadger View Post
    You can't tell the master race what to do.
    You guys... I'm not even hinting at the suggestion of removing it... All I'm saying it's a bit out of place :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
    Only one problem; none of the english voice-overs (never listened to japanese version) for lalafells sound like that. Not even Teledji Adeledji sounds anywhere near that level. Some of the players' choice for lalafell voices could compete with Michael Clarke Duncan. Lalafells with deep voices are not canon.:/
    But wouldn't the fact that players can have deep voices make it canon ? I haven't heard the japanese version either but looks like some of the voices sound very deep, don't know about that-

    Keep in mind that all other races do pretty much the same. Lalafells however have a very playful manner to their adulthood, even in some serious situations. Just take a look at the male lalafell emotes, and compare them to any other race. I would like for you to explain to me how someone who jumps up and down to wave to someone, who spins around in a circle when they are happy, who flaps their arms around like a bird with boneless wings is more masculine than a highlander who puts a lot of emphasis into displaying their natural vigor in their emotes.
    But the thing is that I didn't talk about masculinity. A man can be emotional, femenine, childlish and yet have a deep voice. They also can be criminals of any kind. There are also some emotes that are clearly more vigorous. The /changepose of males are all pretty cool and not cutesy looking, with maybe the sitting one as an exception. A male warrior lalafell would hold his axe with one hand and put it over his shoulder like any highlander.

    I wish there would be more choices of emotes though, I would like a little less childlish emotes.

    You guys... I'm not even hinting at the suggestion of removing it... All I'm saying it's a bit out of place
    It wasn't my intention to suggest you wanted to remove the voices, but my wording was awful sorry ^^U
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    Last edited by Elgeron; 11-24-2014 at 04:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    But wouldn't the fact that players can have deep voices make it canon ?
    Gameplay-wise yes, lore-wise no. Anything available in-game as an option or item is canon to gameplay, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with the story; in-example primal horses have absolutely no lore behind them its just a cosmetic mount you can get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    But the thing is that I didn't talk about masculinity. A man can be emotional, femenine, childlish and yet have a deep voice. They also can be criminals of any kind. There are also some emotes that are clearly more vigorous. The /changepose of males are all pretty cool and not cutesy looking, with maybe the sitting one as an exception. A male warrior lalafell would hold his axe with one hand and put it over his shoulder like any highlander.
    I also want to point out that the common personality of Lalafells acts as a polar balance to all other races. Midlanders are your standard (read: boring) humans, Highlanders are more amazonian and athletic, you have the feline seekers and keepers that retain a lot of their instincts which plays a huge role in their personality, the ridiculously masculine roes (hellsguard females look like guys, wtf), and the playful Lalafell. It is your "cutesy fairy like race" as you would call it, but at the same time they still retain a lot of adult features; far from generic if you ask me. I think that the 4th voice (or 1st if you wanna sound young) suits the male perfectly.
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