DF withdrawl has become the new "Fatigue" system

[LalaRu]

...Now we're being punished for trying to participate in an instance!...

It is amazing that you, and people like you, still trying to buy that excuses, completely ignoring the fact you have two free tickets to avoid the penalty.

You, and all like you, have simply no excuses or reasons to blame the system, other than it really working to avoid you, and people like you, have fun with us with your DF trolling.

The system not only works as intended, it also works great, as long as any complains in forum makes up lame excuses for want it put down. And because the ST/duty queues are a requeue feast no more.

The only thing that, yes, have to be addressed, is when you get a penalty because someone else in your incomplete party, withdrew.

[Barboron]

I do not understand why this was added. People generally don't queue the duty finder, wait a few minutes and click withdrawl over and over again. When a player queues for a duty it's because they WANT to participate in one. I mean "DUH!". And I see no evidence this has had any impact on the number of withdrawls...

Honestly, have you even played this game or used the DF BEFORE the penalty came in? I ask because, well...people did that. And removing the penalty will only bring it back. As I said, if you are too busy to make it back within the allocated 45 seconds to press a button, then you're too busy and it's your loss. As for the party thing, if the leader and everyone in the party isn't too concerned with checking if people are ready, that issue lies with every member of that party.

As said by a member of the community team, although it shouldn't take one of them to tell you this, making it so it will apply a penalty to only those who press withdraw will leave the system open to abuse.

[Shneibel]

Now we're being punished for trying to participate in an instance!
I do not understand why this was added. People generally don't queue the duty finder, wait a few minutes and click withdrawl over and over again.

The system will not be here w/o a reason you see

[RakaMaimhov]

FFXIV 1.0 originally had the notorious fatigue system *snip*

Wowwwwwwwwwwwww. No. What? How is being penalized for trolling the duty finder queue even remotely like the fatigue system? Just. No.

It takes like a whole 2 seconds -okay maybe more like 15 for slower people- of thinking ahead of time to plan carefully and actually pay attention and queue for a duty when you actually have the time to devote to running the duty.

A 30 minute time out is a SMALL price to pay for the INCONVENIENCE and INCONSIDERATION caused by selfishly trolling the duty finder queue for in progress or withdrawing from a duty for umpteen number of tiny excuses.

In any situation where it's important to leave the duty (emergencies, whatnot) thirty minutes is probably how long it would take to deal with real life business anyway.

A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF PLAYERS asked for this lockout to be put into place. SE took a very long time to implement it. I feel they carefully considered things (unlike those who withdraw from duties flippantly) before they implemented the very lenient 30 minute lockout after 3 strikes.

BE GRATEFUL IT'S NOT STRICTER. If it were up to me, it would be 2 hours.

[Delmontyb]

We got the penalty once because of almost a comedy of errors, but it was deserved. The thing I love about this system is that duty's pop more often and we don't get the failed pop messages 95% of the time (for larger content) with these changes, I'm very happy.

[dayspring83]

I do not understand why this was added. People generally don't queue the duty finder, wait a few minutes and click withdrawl over and over again. When a player queues for a duty it's because they WANT to participate in one. I mean "DUH!". And I see no evidence this has had any impact on the number of withdrawls...

Am I the only one who just assume this was a troll post? I thought this part made it pretty obvious...

[Ashkendor]

I do not understand why this was added. People generally don't queue the duty finder, wait a few minutes and click withdrawl over and over again. When a player queues for a duty it's because they WANT to participate in one. I mean "DUH!". And I see no evidence this has had any impact on the number of withdrawls...

This was added because as important as your crying baby or whining dog is to you, all it is to the other 3/7/23 people that are waiting in the queue is wasted time and headaches due to someone withdrawing from the duty. You get two freebies, and there's no reason to use up more than that. If you need to go afk and aren't sure how long it will be, avoid the penalty completely by withdrawing from the queue and then requeue once you're back. As far as ingame things, just be intelligent about what you do to pass the time. I avoid aggro areas like Sapsa and the Sylphlands and I keep my crafts simple so I can extricate myself quickly when the duty pops.

If you honestly believe that there aren't people that troll the queue on purpose, you give the internet at large a lot more credit than it's due. I personally don't understand what they gain from making other people miserable, but that doesn't mean that they don't exist. As far as this reducing the number of withdrawals, there have been many posts on the forums stating that this is the case. If you don't want to take the vast amount of anecdotal evidence into account in this case, then I'm not really sure what to tell you.

[WizardShotTheFood]

Yes, Duty Finder withdrawal has become the new Fatigue system. Much like that case of bronchitis I had this past week has become the new Ebola.

[Linadae]

Actually this was added because too many Tanks/Healers kept doing the hokey pokey till they got the lvl 50 dungeon they wanted. So DPS who had already waited up to an hour now had to wait another half an hour for someone to just decide to take what the roulette gave them.

It wasn't meant to punish people who had real life things pop up. It was put in to punish the people who were using their quick queue times to get the 'easy' dungeons for their tome grind.

Unfortunately this is why we can't have nice things...and the innocent have to suffer for the guilty.

[Ashkendor]

Actually this was added because too many Tanks/Healers kept doing the hokey pokey till they got the lvl 50 dungeon they wanted. So DPS who had already waited up to an hour now had to wait another half an hour for someone to just decide to take what the roulette gave them.

It wasn't meant to punish people who had real life things pop up. It was put in to punish the people who were using their quick queue times to get the 'easy' dungeons for their tome grind.

Unfortunately this is why we can't have nice things...and the innocent have to suffer for the guilty.

Lmao. And in this thread too with the blaming of tanks/healers. I'm not surprised. xD

The vast majority of queue withdrawals I see are from DPS timing out.