Thread: Stone Skin II in 3.0

I started this game as a WHM, I evolved as a healer.. And to be honest I don't even use Stoneskin inside combat unless I have to or really just have nothing to heal. I just view WHM as a reactive healer and thats exactly how I treat it. If you compare the mitigation and HP restored with Cure II and StoneSkin, Cure II will win and they both cost the same MP. So unless we're trying to prep for something like Ravensbeak, Megaflare or Gigaflare or that Derpgoon needs the extra defense, SS stays where it is on my 2nd hotbar[which is still easily accessible.]


Predicting damage and timing heals I can do. I don't feel I could properly do this while also trying to mitigate damage with the slow cast of SS.



As far as the OP's proposition... A AOE SS would do nothing if its outside combat and therefore only save time and relieve the lazy and that's not a buff a healer could actually use to enhance their job.

Originally Posted by Tiggy

Would make them too much like Scholar if usable during battle.

To be honest it would make them more balanced as far as mitigating and strictly "healing damage". It's not entirely a bad thing and it would make the job more flexible because some don't even have a WHM in their group because they argue it can't do jack compared to SCH.

This thread makes me miss Sacred Prism.

Originally Posted by Morzy

To be honest it would make them more balanced as far as mitigating and strictly "healing damage". It's not entirely a bad thing and it would make the job more flexible because some don't even have a WHM in their group because they argue it can't do jack compared to SCH.

White Mage is a pure healer with big heals and minor shields.
Arcanist is a mitagator with smaller heals and big shields.

It's already balanced between two jobs. Making the two jobs more identical isn't "balance" so much as it is boring.

Originally Posted by Morzy

some don't even have a WHM in their group because they argue it can't do jack compared to SCH.

Those are extremely short sighted and close minded individuals. There are things WHM can do better than SCH and vice-versa. This idea that they don't have WHM in their group because they "can't do jack shit" compared to a scholar seems quite silly. WHM can do plenty of things SCH can't. So the statement seems shortsighted on arrival.

Arcanist is a mitagator with smaller heals and big shields.

I know I am nitpicking 'but really'.

This thread makes me miss Sacred Prism.

why was it taken out of the game. sure it be nice as a to this utility back in the game but doesn't SP->SS seems over power. Would a person go SP->SC->SS2 or SC-SP-SS2, middle of the fight.


Beside, why if we take SS II off the GCD and added a 5m CD. I mean sure I would love to had it at that spam-able level, just to see that 1 healer who like screw Media II going SSII all the way. But the real question people need to ask them selfs. why do we need stuff longer. Everything cannot be this T8 DPS-Check. and Im sure if we had SSII in the game as an AOE; people would use it more. Raven beak type of attacks and Dev would gear more fights to this utility.

Originally Posted by Kyroc

AoE stoneskin and or esuna would be way too OP inside of combat. Outside would be fine tho.

They should just make divine seal turn it AoE

in 1.0. the Conjurer was able to cast AoE stoneskin ^ every single skill could be casted alternatively as an AoE

although i think they removed it later on when they tried to patch into the direction of ARR (when jobs were introduced etc.)



i think alternatively they could do it like that (instead of implementing an AoE version of each spell), that they implement an instant skill buff for WHM (long re-use timer - 300 seconds) that grants your next Spell an AoE effect.
I personally would like that very much if you ask me.


not just for stoneskin. also for AoE Regen, Wind/Windra, AoE Stone (for heavy effect), AoE Stoneskin.


As in 1.0. every spell could alternatively be cast as an AoE spell.



but as for feature skills i'd like to see also "Dia" for WHMs