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    I am sure that even though they seem to just be discussing the various topics. If you really know the way Japanese people are, they are actually yelling out their frustration, they just do it in less words
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    What i got from the OP is that the Japanese(or people that can read the Japanese) are more so on that forum compared to the english ones but either way about the same is being said regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Pretty much they have dicussion while we have mindless debating rants. I should learn to read japanese. I think i fit better with them. : /
    ps i'm all for a pk system if done correctly.
    Or let the PKing happen with the intelligent use of mobs ;O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marious View Post
    I am sure that even though they seem to just be discussing the various topics. If you really know the way Japanese people are, they are actually yelling out their frustration, they just do it in less words
    Considering how kanji works, they might be doing it in many more words than you think

    I will always envy the possibility to write long, complex sentences in Japanese, and make them fit the 140 characters on Twitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And you know that without knowing how to read Japanese? My, the marvels of the internets...

    A little piece of advice for the ones idealizing the Japanese internet behavioir. Spend a few hours on 2chan.

    (mind you, I love Japan, I have quite a few Japanese friends, but I know the Japanese internets enough to know that they have their flaws and quirks. Plenty).
    Speaking of 2chan, most of the FF14 population are probably more on 2chan then FF14 forums. Ah the power and craziness of 2chan.
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    I agree that it's hard to use absolute numbers when you don't have percentages; but what I find most interesting is what topics they're discussing. Thanks for the info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Pretty much they have dicussion while we have mindless debating rants. I should learn to read japanese. I think i fit better with them. : /
    Are you female? Because if so you are asking to join a notoriously sexist society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Speaking of 2chan, most of the FF14 population are probably more on 2chan then FF14 forums. Ah the power and craziness of 2chan.
    Things that tells a lot about the quality of the Japanese FF14 population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catharsis View Post
    This information is correct as of 10/03/2011.

    Someone asked me yesterday why I spend more time reading the Japanese forums than the English ones. In order to explain, here's the view count of the forum stickies (The thread topics are identical):

    Sticky: Welcome to Forum: General Discussion!
    * Views: 412
    Sticky: フォーラム:ジェネラルディスカッションについて
    * Views: 2,058

    Sticky Thread Sticky: Welcome to the official FINAL FANTASY XIV forums!
    * Views: 3,643
    Sticky Thread Sticky: ファイナルファンタジーXIV フォーラムにようこそ!
    * Views: 10,678

    Now let's take a look at the top five forum threads by viewcount in the Japanese and English forums:

    English forums:

    [dev1008] About Jumping
    * Replies: 254
    * Views: 6,554

    Aggro Icon
    * Replies: 196
    * Views: 4,554

    [dev1033] Class name changes
    * Replies: 124
    * Views: 4,223

    Chocobos, airships, and the main city
    * Replies: 116
    * Views: 3,550

    New Classes
    * Replies: 144
    * Views: 3,490

    Japanese forums:

    現状の無駄に広いコピペマップについてどう思いますか?
    (What do you think about the currently implemented unreasonably large copy/paste maps?)
    * Replies: 192
    * Views: 30,879

    私はFF14を続けるよ!1拝目
    (I'm gonna continue playing FF14! First Worship)
    * Replies: 84
    * Views: 12,387

    アクティーブモンスターの見分けアイコンは必要?
    (Do we really need that icon for Aggressive monsters)
    * Replies: 160
    * Views: 10,668

    FF14サービス休止して作り直した方がいい
    (It would be better if FF14 suspended its service and fixed the game)
    * Replies: 69
    * Views: 9,336

    PKシステム実装希望
    (I want a Player-Killing system)
    * Replies: 109
    * Views: 8,934

    The inference I make from this is that although the forum threads topics might be equally silly or inflammatory, Japanese people are more prone to actually reading stuff (like you know, the stickies, existing threads and forum guidelines) and less interested in listening to the beautiful sound of their own opinions.
    Agreed X 10mil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Pretty much they have dicussion while we have mindless debating rants. I should learn to read japanese. I think i fit better with them. : /
    ps i'm all for a pk system if done correctly.
    Not really.

    Browsing some quick topics there isn't much of a difference between what's being talked about, and the tones.

    Take these two topics on jumping in the General forum:

    Japanese:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6

    English
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...highlight=jump

    The OP's for both topics state their case.

    The Japanese one suggests the cost of adding jumping to current game mechanics might be too costly in development, so why not add jumping to chocobos instead.

    The english one suggests jumping around is a little obnoxious, but the merits for having jumping in certain locations is ok, thus why not do a FFXIII style jump mechanism where you go to a specific spot to trigger a "jump".

    A smattering of responses for both:

    Japanese (translated):

    "Don't want jumping. I don't want to jump around meaninglessly like an idiot in WoW where you hit [space][space][space]."

    "I don't want a "jump" feature.
    I would however like a [Climb] function."

    "Don't need jumping: agree.
    More over, why are we suddenly even talking about jumping??
    There's way more things that need to be dealt with...
    Like adding a map that actually makes you want to jump"

    English:
    "Jumping is retarded, they shouldn't let Galkas jump...EVER, unless we want the raptors to go extinct."

    "YES we DO NOT want jump in FFXIV!
    Please Yoshi-P DON'T DO IT!"

    "My forehead is bright red from all the face palms I have been doing from reading all these posts. You guys are freaking out over such a harmless feature. Why don't you worry about the more serious problems with this broken game instead of going nuts about something as harmless as jumping."

    Japanese is a more "gentile" language than English is, so it's a lot easier to spot someone trying to be harsh. But overall, meh, there are people being douchey on both sides, but there are a lot of good discussions going on too.
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