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    gamesmart's Avatar
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    Marcus Deston
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
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    Unless it was patched early on in 2.2, I've seen no mention of anything regarding enemy behaviors specifically in that turn. The same issue is apparent (not to the same degree as T7 or T12, but it's still there) in more or less every turn past 5 - snakes, slugs, dreadnaught, add in Heavensfall phase, sons and daughters, nodes - that fixing it in only one turn is not only illogical, but doesn't really do anything about the problem unless they completely change how the core mechanic works.

    Everyone else here has said what I've said, and I've personally had no issues picking up adds in most instances when I decide that me tanking is a good idea. Know when it spawns, where it spawns, and be ready to pick it up as soon as you can target it.
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    Makado Kitase
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    And I have already beaten 12 and we are 50% on 13, I've spent enough time in there it is not a "forgot" or "to slow" issue.
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    Bar Boron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    The point I'm making is that even after I get aggro on them because they first had aggro on a healer they continue to them even though I have hate. That's fine if your healers just happen to not have healed or whatever, but it is the same concept as what was going on in Turn 7 which they acknowledged and patched.
    I know the point you're making but my point is, you're too slow. This used to happen to me until I started giving it much more focus and getting onto it quicker, then it stopped.
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    Makado Kitase
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    I know the point you're making but my point is, you're too slow. This used to happen to me until I started giving it much more focus and getting onto it quicker, then it stopped.
    It can't be any faster then I do it, as my BB is completed on the mob before it has even moved in the first place and was started before it has even hit the arena.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    It can't be any faster then I do it, as my BB is completed on the mob before it has even moved in the first place and was started before it has even hit the arena.
    Then you're lagging. When I use Butchers Block properly (sometimes I am a tiny bit slow, but I know When I am) I don't have the add running after my whm, it sticks to me.

    And it never got patched in t7, I swear I saw it happen two days ago there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Then you're lagging. When I use Butchers Block properly (sometimes I am a tiny bit slow, but I know When I am) I don't have the add running after my whm, it sticks to me.
    Your healers must not be healing at that time or something then. Im not lagging and others have said this as well to me. Like I said it was a problem in 7 and was fixed so im trying to find out from a dev if this could be the same issue.
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    Kori Fleming
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    It's basically an issue where the first person to get hate on a freshly spawned enemy will have that enemy run over to them, smack them once, then run back to the tank. If you hit it while it's still buffering (aka before it becomes ~active~) then it won't run over to the healers. Haven't actually tested it, but much like the dragons in T5, if you pop a CD it generates a small amount of hate - so potentially a solution is to pop a CD as it spawns and then use your combo'd Savage/Skull Sunder/etc. Of course this won't take hate over Med 2 ticks, but it will give you initial aggro if nothing happened before the CD is popped which should keep it in place. If not, I suppose it's just about not healing until after the add spawns... not the best solution but could be the only option.
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    Lucille Wallace
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    How are you pulling hate on adds though?
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Sounds like you're just not picking them up fast enough. They're targetable by aoe attacks like Flash and Overpower (and show up in the enmity list) for at least a second before they complete their "spawn" animation which is when you should be doing something to pick them up before they go munch on a healer.
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    The game checks things in certain intervals. Aggro on monsters can be a bit funky because of it.

    Just try to be quicker on the adds, I guess.
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