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    BraveheartRamo's Avatar
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    Soldiery value wiped.... -_-

    Let's say we are in 2.35 and we work up with 10 ilvl 80 dungeons to get 400 soldiery, aiming for ilvl 100 gear.... then comes 2.4 and now we have to do another 10 dungeons to add Poetics starting from 0 while mythodology and soldiery is combined to one currency.

    Not sure why not replace soldiery with poetics and keep mythodology.
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    Or they could, reward allied seals along with it. It would help me out grinding alex for novus.
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    Yeah, our original poster doesn't have a problem with getting Soldiery. He probably has alot of Soldiery now. Their 'problem' is that the new gear isn't bought with Soldiery. His 'suggestion' is that they should have just bumped down the Soldiery gear in lieu of the Poetic gear and left the tomes alone, allowing him to buy the Poetic gear with Soldiery. Yeah, just a 'why can't I have nicer things' thread.
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    The reason why they didn't do this:

    Philosophy buys i70 gear
    Mythology buys i90 gear
    Soldiery buys i100 gear
    Poetics buys i120 gear

    Nice and simple.

    They didn't mess around with what the older tomes provide because then it would just get confusing.
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    Nicer things are good. When Soldiery was used to buy the highest items available and the time consumed to complete many dungeons for a low soldiery reward is the same reward which you will use now to buy atma books. Good thing they reduced the price of books so now I have to spend more time with lvl 90 gear. For the record, I had 400 soldiery and 1.4k myth, now I did the exchange and ended up with little less than 700 soldiery and 0 Poetics as far as I remeber
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    So let me get this straight. They introduced new gear, and a new tome to buy it with, so instead of having done that you'd rather they left the tomes alone and instead bumped the gear down an 'availability grade'? Sure, I don't see that going wrong at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    So let me get this straight. They introduced new gear, and a new tome to buy it with, so instead of having done that you'd rather they left the tomes alone and instead bumped the gear down an 'availability grade'? Sure, I don't see that going wrong at all...
    Truth be told, there are better ways they could've handled it than the hack-job they made of replacing myth with soldiery.

    Soldiery tomes are incredibly slow to earn compared to earlier myth tomes, and they haven't really changed the price of items purchased with it as much as they did when they replaced Philosophy with Myth. In fact, I daresay that items are now technically MORE expensive as a result of the tomes' lessened availability.

    Sure, we don't have a weekly cap but that's where the benefits end. Unless you endlessly grind the higher end dungeons, you're not getting anywhere fast with earning tomes. Not even with daily rewards. 10 measly tomes for a dungeon? 20 if I do a mid-range? I'd sooner waste that same amount of time doing something more productive.

    They remove the currencies because it 'confuses' new players and 'helps' them get to the same level as everyone else, apparently ignorant of the fact it's only making the grind heavier and less satisfying in the long run. Then again, these are the same people who gave us the relentless zodiac grind so... take that as you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
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    They remove currencies because they want people to focus on i120/i130, using i100/i110 as a mean to do it, it's just a way to invalidate old gear. Replacing currencies was a good move and something I expect they keep doing past the expansion.

    As for the prices, I don't know if you are being intentionally oblivious but every time a thread like this pops up you are told they always increase the lower currency yield in later updates, it happened in previous patches, ignoring this fact won't make it go away.

    Maybe they should add patience to the soldiery shop so you guys can buy some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    They remove currencies because they want people to focus on i120/i130, using i100/i110 as a mean to do it, it's just a way to invalidate old gear. Replacing currencies was a good move and something I expect they keep doing past the expansion.
    Well, they fail miserably at it then. New players don't have access to HM roulette because, and this is utter genius, they've MOVED the previous 'extreme' roulettes down to HM... you need ALL of them beaten to access it.

    So, now players can only earn tomes in the lower, weaker dungeons. Getting 10 tomes here, 20 tomes there. PER RUN! The gear offered by these dungeons is weak as watered down lager, and insufficient to access the better dungeons in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    As for the prices, I don't know if you are being intentionally oblivious but every time a thread like this pops up you are told they always increase the lower currency yield in later updates, it happened in previous patches, ignoring this fact won't make it go away.
    Yes, but they didn't REDUCE the amount earned. I don't know if you're being intentionally ignorant of my post, but while later patches further increased it earning tomes was certainly easy enough from the start.

    Furthermore, they added a new way of getting the ilvl 90 gear thanks to hunts, and at 40 seals for a body piece it was an absolute bargain. Now, you need 300 for a basic item, and the i90 gear trades have been placed in a dungeon which you need i90 to compete in! Utterly pointless.

    I can craft you a Hi-Potion of Intelligence if you're having trouble understanding this basic concept.
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    It's not like soldiery is difficult to get by any means. ._.
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