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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    The coil nerfs were known to be coming for quite some time prior to the notification of the patch which it came with. It did not take a genius to work out 2.41 was going to have it. Yes they might not have known what the nerfs would be but they knew when it was coming and since it came out the intensity of the attacks have got worse. In fact the person who started the big whiny thread about second coil nerfs that is currently around 60 pages of whining had pointed out and whined about the upcoming nerfs to the coils 2 days prior to the start of the DDoSing and before knowing what those nerfs were also. Just the principle of it being nerfed was enough for her to whine about it without even knowing what would be. It is not hard to assume that others felt the same way and one of those pre-emtively decided to lash out because of it.
    Look if you want to pretend that you can tell the future so be it, but I'm not going to argue over your assumptions. The only time they mentioned coil nerfs prior to 2.41 was during fan fest and they received a lot of negative feedback from it. Since fan fest they released a major update and did not give any date for coil nerfs, nor did they mention them until the 2.41 patch notes.

    So if it makes you feel better, keep pretending you know what you're talking about, but in my opinion you're only making yourself look stupid. If you are so good at telling the future then let me hear some more predictions Nostradamus, I look forward to the amusement.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 11-20-2014 at 02:29 AM.

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    Either way Snugglebutt correlation does not imply causation. It's still an assumption regardless of what people did or didn't know about the patch noted and coil nerfs. The fact that other MMOs were DDoS'd in an apparent spree of DDoS's does seem like the more likely answer, but even that is still an assumption.
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    It doesn't matter why these attacks are happening, whether it be someone trying to make a statement or someone just doing it for laughs. All that matters is that they *are* happening and need to be handled.

    You can't stop the reason, only the effect.
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    DDoS at lolBlizzard expansion pack launch. They really don't know where to look and what to do more for few players number back. Fact is WoW sucks since years and its community is ways smaller than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Timing of the attack is a major factor. Yes attacks can happen anytime but when the attacks happen right after a reasonably large change to one aspect of the game which is closely tied to people well known for having extremely large egos and elitist attitudes it weighs the chance of it being related to that group or more specifically someone within it at a much higher probability.
    As SE stated they were happening prior to the patch notes and patch itself.

    Just a poor assumption and you fabricating drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Either way Snugglebutt correlation does not imply causation. It's still an assumption regardless of what people did or didn't know about the patch noted and coil nerfs. The fact that other MMOs were DDoS'd in an apparent spree of DDoS's does seem like the more likely answer, but even that is still an assumption.
    Never said it was not an assumption. I am fully aware of the fact I am making assumptions.

    Just like people assuming it's RMT behind it or people assuming it's linked to the Blizzard attacks.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 11-20-2014 at 03:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucy View Post
    Far more likely culprits are RMTs who lost gold and gil from crackdowns
    That's my best guess too. It might also explain why no *effective* action has been taken against bots since the beginning. Maybe SE is trying to see if it can manage without some unwelcome "business partners".

    Every DDoS attack is a little different, and it takes a little time to set up a packet filter for it.
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    So XIV has been DDoS'd I cna think of some possible motivations:

    • Political: As an early post has stated, Japan and Korea had an...imfamous relationship. Other than that the attack could be an attempt to bring SE into GamerGate somehow by crashing the game and blaming the other side, but that seems unlikely
    • Butthurt: The timing of the attacks coincides with 2.41, which brought with it Second Coil nerfs. Special Snowflakes tend to be very angry when their specialness is diluted. However this also seems unlikely.
    • Trolling: Some People just want to watch Eorzea burn. Most likely motivation.
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    Well..good thing I just bought Dragon Age..that shall keep me occupied until this passes.
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    Attacks are most likely connected to other ddos attacks on other mmos and fansites over the last few weeks. Only motivation I can see for this is trolling, if it was a hactivist movement they would of most likely also tried to shut down jp datacenter and the lodestone. Can almost guarantee you that they were monitoring our forums during attack and having a good ol laugh at our posts.

    Also as other have stated, retaliation theory for 2.41 nerfs is also highly unlikely since the attacks started two days before patch notes were released. Yes we've known for months that second coil was going to get nerfed, but no one but SE knew that 2.41 was going to be that nerf.
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