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  1. #11
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    Maracrea13x's Avatar
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    Fisher Hide
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Using swift+ Shadowflare with your opening dots wouldn't hurt anything. And while SMN is about Damage over time, doesn't waste anything.
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    Suggestion's Avatar
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    This. I use swiftcast on shadowflare as SCH ffs!!
    sounds good..
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  3. #13
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maracrea13x View Post
    Using swift+ Shadowflare with your opening dots wouldn't hurt anything. And while SMN is about Damage over time, doesn't waste anything.
    Are you saying it doesn't matter much either way then? I think i can slightly agree with using it as an opening on your very first rotation.
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  4. #14
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Depends on fight. Turn 11 I m using swiftcast once i need apply dots during dodging nerve gasses or other mechanics. In the opener i m using it always, but during the fight using it different purposes..
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  5. #15
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Well, for Swiftcast, using it at the beginning doesnt sound too bad, but if you take the battle mechanics and how high chances are for you to be ressing someone, specially the other healer or a tank, then wouldn't judge when to reuse it mid battle be a matter of such facts?

    For a bad example: if your party already went through a wipe, yea, save it for a res.
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  6. #16
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    Suggestion's Avatar
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    For a bad example: if your party already went through a wipe, yea, save it for a res.
    good point
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  7. #17
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    Using a 60 sec skill, for a skill with cast time of 2.88s seems like a waste. I'd rather be ready to rez at any moment as that is what summoners are given the ability to do.
    While it's great that SMN can raise, your job is DPS. You MUST optimize DPS at all time.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  8. #18
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    While it's great that SMN can raise, your job is DPS. You MUST optimize DPS at all time.
    Which, depending on other factors, may mean rez'ing someone.
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  9. #19
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    I don't think using swift cast and shadowflare is going to be a big boost in "optimization" re-casting your dots and making use of your instant skills i believe does the trick. I really would like some damage charts on this tho, comparing the use of swift shadow and not. And once again this class isn't like the others, this dps has the resurrect option. Which i think is being overlooked and not given enough spotlight as it should.
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  10. #20
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    I don't think using swift cast and shadowflare is going to be a big boost in "optimization" re-casting your dots and making use of your instant skills i believe does the trick. I really would like some damage charts on this tho, comparing the use of swift shadow and not. And once again this class isn't like the others, this dps has the resurrect option. Which i think is being overlooked and not given enough spotlight as it should.
    Does not matter how big the boost is, dmg is dmg. I'd take a 1 dps increase if it meant using cooldowns in a different order or something of the like. Min/max, especially if you are a raider.
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