Why are numbers valued more highly than fun.

[Morzy]

Some of you players are ridiculous and quite insecure. You get a new job and find it very enjoyable and the first thing you worry about is it getting nerfed and becoming "less" good, as if a overall 2% decrease in DPS would ruin the fun for you.


Before patch 2.41:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-and-Dungeons.

After patch 2.41:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...oice-ninjas%21

[Sadana]

For one, for some players numbers ARE fun. Also, people who raid are concerned they will lose a valuable static spot if they continue playing as their preferred-yet-now-nerfed class.

[Fated]

For one, for some players numbers ARE fun. Also, people who raid are concerned they will lose a valuable static spot if they continue playing as their preferred-yet-now-nerfed class.

You could post this until the end of the world and some people would still never get it.

[TheRogueX]

For one, for some players numbers ARE fun. Also, people who raid are concerned they will lose a valuable static spot if they continue playing as their preferred-yet-now-nerfed class.

You could post this until the end of the world and some people would still never get it.

I get it - those players are part of the problem, though. They're the ones kicking you out of your static because you suddenly do a tiny bit less damage on your favorite class and slowing the raid down by a tiny amount.

Most people want to be the best at something. A job that puts up big numbers will draw a lot of players because they want the thrill of putting big numbers up and the admiration of their fellow players. For most of us playing an MMO it's about trying to get the next best thing or being the best at what we do. When that comes under threat people get nervous. For most of us the fun is putting up big numbers,when you take those numbers away, there goes the fun.

And you don't see this as a problem? Insecurity, big time. You think big numbers = better. This is why we don't have support jobs or jobs with actual utility outside of the trinity in this game. This is the curse of modern MMOs.

[Illya]

And you don't see this as a problem? Insecurity, big time. You think big numbers = better. This is why we don't have support jobs or jobs with actual utility outside of the trinity in this game. This is the curse of modern MMOs.

Why don't you tell the devs to not put strict DPS checks in endgame fights them. As long as you need a certain amount of DPS to clear fights, you're going to have people who watch the numbers.

[Genesis-xyx]

This is a game, people aren't allowed to have fun ^.^

[DoctorPepper]

Why would anybody want the main job they play to get nerfed?

The first thread you posted was nothing but a bunch of people who never even played 50 ninja whining about how it's so easy and OP. The thread itself was baseless speculation from a player who was essentially begging for ninja to be nerfed. Several of the posters whining about ninja were monks or dragoons who didn't even have rogue unlocked, let alone ninja.

People are happy about the lack of nerf and you choose to single out the positive thread rather than the one full of negative garbage, good job.

[Fayto]

how it's so easy and OP.

Well, it is the easiest melee DPS after all and a little OP for how easy it is.

[Sholah]

People play the job they play because they like it. Your favorite job having less potential than before is pretty annoying to anyone.

[RakaMaimhov]

This whole game is numbers. That's all it is.

You think that is limited to video games? Have you ever played tabletop gaming or TCG's? NUMBERS.

People play the job they play because they like it. Your favorite job having less potential than before is pretty annoying to anyone.

Herein is why DRG at the least, is justified in their "whining" presently.

Even though I KNOW my potential on DRG is less than other melee DPS, I still enjoy playing the job, and have fun doing it. It gets frustrating and depressing that I do my best and thanks to the limitations of how my main is built, I will never do as well in many situations as others. And that is not fun.

I don't think nerfing a class is the solution. I think bringing the other classes/jobs up to par so they are all equal is the solution. Nobody wants to be nerfed.

Numbers are fun. Numbers are also not fun. The two go together.