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    Vodomir's Avatar
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    Vodomir Daemaethor
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    A full Soldiery drg has way too much skill speed to be viable in a large number of fights. I've only found T6 savage so far to be effective for drg to have SS build. Crit is our main stat for i110.
    Even with a mixed pre-2.4 BiS Set the issue of having too much SS still remains. And as far as I know stat weights say that det is our main secondary stat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    As far as what everyone has been saying, yes, I should provide evidence. So tell me what would be the most effective fight to demonstrate dps. T8 with turning echo off? A video of a dummy parse? I'll work on making a video of something appropriate sometime tonite. However, I have not seen any proof of a mnk hitting 550+ in fights and it most likely isn't possible with i110 unless they have another mnk DK all the time.
    T8 with echo probably isn't very representative, so I'd say a dummy parse would serve best. As far as dummy parses are concerned, I've seen Monks and Ninja do 520 DPS in iLvl 110 with 115 weapon (remember, no melded stuff and no 120+ gear).

    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/PpJ1XMV.png?1
    Average parse of t10 I believe this was a 1% wipe or something but this was average among our attempts. Did clear by the end of the night. DPS could be higher for me but with charge rng it can fluctuate.
    I actually don't buy that "average" thing, as you've selected one specific encounter. If you wanted to show your average DPS you could as well have selected the all encounter. And your numbers are not actually in the realm of exceptionally high, as I've seen other DRGs post numbers of 450 DPS with iLvl 115 weapon, and those Dragoons weren't even the renowned names on these forums. So this parse doesn't really give me any reason to believe that you actually blow all other Dragoons out of the water.
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    siverstorm's Avatar
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    Vivian Grimelka
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/PpJ1XMV.png?1
    Average parse of t10 I believe this was a 1% wipe or something but this was average among our attempts. Did clear by the end of the night. DPS could be higher for me but with charge rng it can fluctuate.
    Considering how much HP Imdugud actually has and how much damage it took in that screenshot that was not a 1% wipe lol. Your 1% wipe was probably the 10:41 result which wasn't highlighted. On our attempts during progression my numbers were fairly close and I had no penta'd gear.

    We can pull decent numbers but in comparison to a mnk/nin of equal skill/gear it's like night and day. In most pug content I can pull top dps easily but in the raid content where it matters the problem is glaring.

    NIN burst is so close to DRG burst that when you couple their sustained damage and their burst vs drg the problem gets even worse.

    Going with what Vodomir is saying DET is our goto stat. Our sustained output is problematic as is, even without looking at stat weights. We need all the sustained dps we can get since spike damage from crits is unreliable and the important crits are usually get life surged anyway.
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    Last edited by siverstorm; 11-20-2014 at 12:45 AM.