Question about the change to job requirement

[semc]

I've only been playing for about a month now, and I'm already seeing the same retarded patch notes with no explanation given that I had with WoW before I quit many years ago.

I've seen various comments by googling this, and the general consensus by people who actually understand things (not me), is that its RMT related.

Assuming this is the case: How? And furthermore, even if this is to slow things down, what about all the current bajillion already with their job crystal? Will it take it away or something? I wouldn't mind an indepth explanation.

For all the talk of RMT, all the ones I ever see are the level one's in Ul-Derp at level one, spam friend requests, whisper me, and then disappear before I can remove them. Level one's won't be impacted by a level 20 or even level 30 quest.

I'm going to hope someone here can explain this one before curiosity and frustration at stupid makes me hunt down a hacking forum to go find out what convoluted exploit involving three goats, a camel, and a subscription to redbox this fixed.

[Spoekes]

Took another look at the patch notes and have no idea what you are talking about

From what I understand...

Before:
Players must reach level 30 with the job’s associated class.
After:
Players must reach level 30 with the job’s associated class, and have completed the main scenario quest "Sylph-management."

Example: I wanna be a Paladin
Before:

• Get Gladiator to 30 + do all available Class-Quests
• Get Druid to 15 + do all available Class-Quests.

After:

• Get Gladiator to 30 + do all available Class-Quests
• Get Druid to 15 + do all available Class-Quests.
• Do the Main Scenario Quest until and including "Sylph-management."

[semc]

Exactly, I don't get it either. I don't see the need for the change, and any google search I do brings up people asking the same question. The answers are usually, "I don't know, but its probably due to RMT spammers and BLM's doing WP" or something similar. So I'm asking here, on the official forum, "Why?" Because Reddit (the place others are asking) doesn't know either and I wouldn't trust them anyway.

[Yonko]

Exactly, I don't get it either. I don't see the need for the change, and any google search I do brings up people asking the same question. The answers are usually, "I don't know, but its probably due to RMT spammers and BLM's doing WP" or something similar. So I'm asking here, on the official forum, "Why?" Because Reddit (the place others are asking) doesn't know either and I wouldn't trust them anyway.

It was changed because SE decided it needed to be changed. I wouldn't be surprised that it is being changed to prevent RMT from being able to quickly make lvl 50 chars with jobs to spam things.

In the grand scheme of things it shouldn't effect a legitimate player.

[StouterTaru]

It's a place you need to be at anyway as a legit player, that quest is right after you have joined a GC, which gives you retainers and your chocobo.

You can easily hit 50 and spam lower level content without unlocking a job, so I'm not sure why it's a RMT countermeasure.

[Pterois]

I believe it is not to prevent RMT's but to make them easier to identify.

And for the OP... you dont understand because you have not played this game long enough to understand... you will start to see sooner or later though.

[Yonko]

It's a place you need to be at anyway as a legit player, that quest is right after you have joined a GC, which gives you retainers and your chocobo.

You can easily hit 50 and spam lower level content without unlocking a job, so I'm not sure why it's a RMT countermeasure.

I believe lots of RMT use BLMs for the AoE abilities which mostly come from the job and not the class.

[Darkobra]

Exactly, I don't get it either. I don't see the need for the change, and any google search I do brings up people asking the same question. The answers are usually, "I don't know, but its probably due to RMT spammers and BLM's doing WP" or something similar. So I'm asking here, on the official forum, "Why?" Because Reddit (the place others are asking) doesn't know either and I wouldn't trust them anyway.

If you're not going to trust them, you're going to have a far harder time trusting anything here.

Fact is, nobody knows until a dev speaks out. It's pointless and confusing. It doesn't personally affect me as I've done it all but it still baffles me.

I believe it is not to prevent RMT's but to make them easier to identify.

And for the OP... you dont understand because you have not played this game long enough to understand... you will start to see sooner or later though.

I've been online gaming for 15 years and actually been involved with the RMT hunting process in other games. I can tell you that this will not slow them down. This will not make them easier to track. The massive amounts of gold being sent to a common trader and to unrelated people that haven't even been on the friends list does that. If you think people not doing a quest is going to flag them, you've not been gaming long enough to understand.

[Yonko]

I've been online gaming for 15 years and actually been involved with the RMT hunting process in other games. I can tell you that this will not slow them down. This will not make them easier to track. The massive amounts of gold being sent to a common trader and to unrelated people that haven't even been on the friends list does that. If you think people not doing a quest is going to flag them, you've not been gaming long enough to understand.

Its not 1 quest through it is all the quests up to and including that quest. I have no exceptions that this will stop RMT cold but it will make it just a little harder to do while not actually hurting real players than I'm all for it.

Even if the change means it takes RMT 8.5 hours to hit level 50 instead of 8 hours that is still .5 hours they can't be farming.

[semc]

Thank you. And all the others who responded.

By the same logic that I can read Linux patch notes and have explanations of files/changes made in the patch notes themselves, and I don't need to be a black hat to understand what and why something was changed; I shouldn't have to go hunt down RMT or hacking forums to understand why changes in FF14 were made. Especially something as opaque as altering the job quest requirement a year after release. Its not that it affects me, and its not that I'm angry. I'm just confused and I want answers! I have one character, this doesn't affect me, but its so bizarre a change to need a quest that you should have ALREADY DONE on the way to 30 that it stands out as wtf.