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  1. #11
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Have fun with Turn 9.
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.

    Honestly if I joined some random mmorpg, I wouldn't care at all what the pro people do or think. All I would care about is my gear, my runs, and my experience. There should always be something for the elitists (savage, FCoB) but outside of that it should be fair game to the casuals.
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  2. #12
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    Why do people wait for content to get nerfed to play a game? Why not unsub and wait till the game is almost dead and then play?
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    You mean that thing Yoshi will have nerfed next?
    Doubt it will receive significant nerfs. Turn 5 hasn't. All the one shot mechanics are still in place.

    They kept Turn 5 a challenge to gate people who aren't ready for second coil.
    And they want to keep Turn 9 a challenge to gate people who aren't ready for final coil.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.

    Honestly if I joined some random mmorpg, I wouldn't care at all what the pro people do or think. All I would care about is my gear, my runs, and my experience. There should always be something for the elitists (savage, FCoB) but outside of that it should be fair game to the casuals.
    Better gear won't help in Turn 9 when the majority of the fight is handling mechanics. Second and fourth phase are all mechanics. Dps is really only an issue for heaven's fall.

    Same reason why people in full 110 still struggle with Turn 5. Dps isn't the issue. The issue are the mechanics. Divebombs and twisters to be precise.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.
    you know that T9 is mainly mechanic and only 2 time DPS check right ?
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    you know that T9 is mainly mechanic and only 2 time DPS check right ?
    You know I've been trying to clear t9 for months because people can't seem to do golems right, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post
    My only complaint is why wasn't the toning down of these actions done sooner? Team jump rope mechanics and "do this ridiculously convoluted action or you die" mechanics should have only been in Savage Coil in the first place.
    Some might argue and ask why wasnt there a storymode coil without "jump rope mechanics" as you put it for people who dont wish to set foot in the harder content? If you're arguement is gear then you already have i110 from ST and even poetics at i120 now. Guild Wars 2 did a good job of this by adding a storymode for those wanting easier runs and explorable mode for those who wanted harder mechanics. If SE followed them and gave out both mode types of content in the same patch then i guess alot of people like yourself might feel better about having access sooner rather than wait for months.

    Also i do still believe that the content difficulty should reflect the gear quality. People who want easier content dont need the best gear. Deny or twist this logic in any way you wish but it wont make you any more right about what i just said.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You're still gonna have to deal with devour in T6. If people repeatedly get eaten, the damage will be too much to handle.

    People still need to handle shriek in T7. Even though it won't be instant death, the tank won't last long with the boss pounding on them for 10 seconds without heals.

    Ballistic missile in T8 will still one shot you and allagan field still need to be handled properly.

    Not everything was toned down. There's still jump roping to be had. You're still going to wipe a lot and would be a nightmare to duty find.
    The boss hits like a wet noodle. The only dangerous damage is first and third set of adds. My group has had runs where someone petrified both healers and Eos solo healed it for the entire duration. A 10 second petrification with no chance of death means Shriek is kinda weaksauce.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    You know I've been trying to clear t9 for months because people can't seem to do golems right, right?
    now you lost me, are you repeating what I said or you say I said something wrong ?
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    now you lost me, are you repeating what I said or you say I said something wrong ?
    Dunno, are you saying t9 isn't hard for everyone?
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