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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    You mean that thing Yoshi will have nerfed next?
    Doubt it will receive significant nerfs. Turn 5 hasn't. All the one shot mechanics are still in place.

    They kept Turn 5 a challenge to gate people who aren't ready for second coil.
    And they want to keep Turn 9 a challenge to gate people who aren't ready for final coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Have fun with Turn 9.
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.

    Honestly if I joined some random mmorpg, I wouldn't care at all what the pro people do or think. All I would care about is my gear, my runs, and my experience. There should always be something for the elitists (savage, FCoB) but outside of that it should be fair game to the casuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.

    Honestly if I joined some random mmorpg, I wouldn't care at all what the pro people do or think. All I would care about is my gear, my runs, and my experience. There should always be something for the elitists (savage, FCoB) but outside of that it should be fair game to the casuals.
    Better gear won't help in Turn 9 when the majority of the fight is handling mechanics. Second and fourth phase are all mechanics. Dps is really only an issue for heaven's fall.

    Same reason why people in full 110 still struggle with Turn 5. Dps isn't the issue. The issue are the mechanics. Divebombs and twisters to be precise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.
    you know that T9 is mainly mechanic and only 2 time DPS check right ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.

    Honestly if I joined some random mmorpg, I wouldn't care at all what the pro people do or think. All I would care about is my gear, my runs, and my experience. There should always be something for the elitists (savage, FCoB) but outside of that it should be fair game to the casuals.
    kinda funny how sol gear did almost nothing to help people get past T5.
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    I doubt it's going to be any easier than most EX Primals still, even after the nerfs.

    That said I am all for having an actual option for i110 gearing that isn't Syrcus Tower, because joining even 'farming' pugs for second coil was regularly proving to not actually be a thing.

    EDIT: Apparently it's definitely on the easy side now, so idk
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    Last edited by Garlyle; 11-18-2014 at 09:16 PM.

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    You're still gonna have to deal with devour in T6. If people repeatedly get eaten, the damage will be too much to handle.

    People still need to handle shriek in T7. Even though it won't be instant death, the tank won't last long with the boss pounding on them for 10 seconds without heals.

    Ballistic missile in T8 will still one shot you and allagan field still need to be handled properly.

    Not everything was toned down. There's still jump roping to be had. You're still going to wipe a lot and would be a nightmare to duty find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You're still gonna have to deal with devour in T6. If people repeatedly get eaten, the damage will be too much to handle.

    People still need to handle shriek in T7. Even though it won't be instant death, the tank won't last long with the boss pounding on them for 10 seconds without heals.

    Ballistic missile in T8 will still one shot you and allagan field still need to be handled properly.

    Not everything was toned down. There's still jump roping to be had. You're still going to wipe a lot and would be a nightmare to duty find.
    The boss hits like a wet noodle. The only dangerous damage is first and third set of adds. My group has had runs where someone petrified both healers and Eos solo healed it for the entire duration. A 10 second petrification with no chance of death means Shriek is kinda weaksauce.
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    Why do people wait for content to get nerfed to play a game? Why not unsub and wait till the game is almost dead and then play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    Why do people wait for content to get nerfed to play a game? Why not unsub and wait till the game is almost dead and then play?
    I wonder the same. What is the point of purposely waiting for something to get so nerfed down that you are gifted gear for as minimal effort as possible? Word that comes to mind is "entitled".
    This is not Second Coil anymore, it is a reduced difficulty variation of it. While some players are happy it's been nerfed to high hell, other players who abhor using the Party Finder (some of whom can be just as if not more capable at these encounters than some of the supposed static pros) will NEVER get to experience the fights as they once were and should be (leave Savage out of this).

    Some players hate using the Party Finder and only want to use Duty Finder to queue for content. Please nerf content AFTER you give it a run in solo queue Duty Finder first, not the other way around.
    Shiva X should be in Duty Finder already, why does it have to take so long?

    SE stop assuming that players who don't want to use Party Finder are incapable of clearing content.
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    Last edited by ToffeeCoffee; 11-18-2014 at 06:45 PM.

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