So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Garlyle]

Welp, first experience with Duty Finder has taught me the following: People still are trash at Turn 6. Everyone had me thinking it was basically free wins, and sure, Blighted Boquet's only like 4k damage now; doesn't matter when your party has the positional sense of chickens with their heads cut off for Devours and Thorny Vines.

I for one do. I enjoy helping people get clears on content. I've gone in clear parties and subbed in statics on their first clear plenty of times now, and have helped FC mates get their clears as well. ^^

You're a rare kind of person, and thank you for being a thing.

[OdinEon]

If by destroyed, you mean playable too probably 80% of the games population that has not yet cleared due to toxic elites that either charge for clears or kick new players for not having run it it yet, then yes, oh shame on SE for allowing "casuals" to complete the storyline.

[Alaric1025]

but guise, there's still this giant roadblock called Twintania

Yes, thank you! and i still haven't been able to find the right group to clear Twintania. T_T

[Cadmar]

After being at the tip of the spear for 1st Coil, I took about 6 months off due to random real life drama. So much has happened since I last played and it was all a bit overwhelming to say the least. I have very mixed feelings on this. For selfish reasons it makes me happy that I will now be able to "catch up" to everyone that has been playing in my absence, but at the same time I find it a little ridiculous that I am able to. Some people shed blood, sweat and tears over getting these clears and now they watch as people who have no business even stepping into the ring get to clear it with no problem. The same thing happened in 1st Coil. It was like the flood gates opened and all the baddies now thought they were amazing because they could clear watered down content.

Life is not supposed to be fair. Some people are better at some things that others. When we as a society start handing out participation ribbons for mediocrity, everyone loses.

[Ashkendor]

Yes, thank you! and i still haven't been able to find the right group to clear Twintania. T_T

Ugh too bad you aren't on Sarg, I'd be happy to help if you were. :|

[Amenian]

Life is not supposed to be fair. Some people are better at some things that others. When we as a society start handing out participation ribbons for mediocrity, everyone loses.

You know, if we were discussing stuff that actually matters, i.e. real life stuff, you'd have a point. But we're discussing a game. Society will not be affected in any manner by a nerf to a video game.

[Jacost]

Life is not supposed to be fair. Some people are better at some things that others. When we as a society start handing out participation ribbons for mediocrity, everyone loses.

Life, no. GAMES, however, are supposed to be fair.

[Purrfectstorm]

It was like the flood gates opened and all the baddies now thought they were amazing because they could clear watered down content.

Right, baddies need to know their place

[Cadmar]

Ok, I get the point about games. Are you telling me that skill and time allotted should not come into play at all. You're saying just hand things to people? Look at any online FPS out there. There is a huge amount of skill involved in order to succeed. I am awful at most FPS but at least I have the ability to admit that. I still play them but I know that I will never reach the status that other people who play it do.

So yeah, should they be fair? Yes. They should offer the same challenge to everyone equally. Everyone should have to clear things equally. So who is here is really being unfair?

[Gwaeron]

I don't get these so called elitist. You can brag all you want that you beat the game with out echo... good job we commend you on that but did you ever think others want to play end game too / raids but due to their "REAL LIFE" issues/schedules they can't. SE is just being fair to others who want to play it.

So that's the same people that can't beat Second Coil with twenty extra item levels and a 10% echo who want to, ahem, enjoy endgame? I'm sure they'll find their time in Final Coil very enjoyable indeed.

Also, if it's endgame you want, then what's so bad about Second Coil still being on endgame level? More fun for you with "REAL LIFE" issues!