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    Player Dashuto's Avatar
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    Dashuto Moragan
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I wonder how many of the angry people in this thread are actually just run sellers, upset that they can only sell Final Coil now.
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The OP's whining aside, I like how the ilevel requirements are overshooting what you actually need for once: it was really rare for someone to be i105 when people were first clearing t9.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    I wonder how many of the angry people in this thread are actually just run sellers, upset that they can only sell Final Coil now.
    I'm confident that I'd still be able to sell t9, DF still can't do t5 most of them time lmao.
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    Last edited by SarcasmMisser; 11-18-2014 at 04:12 PM.

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    Tyrnia Edil
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    The OP's whining aside, I like how the ilevel requirements are overshooting what you actually need for once: it was really rare for someone to be i105 when people were first clearing t9.
    The requirements were a bit high, a tank with full 110 on the left side and pentamelded ruby accessories on the right side will not meet the minimum requirements for T9.


    With the nerfs the hardest part of each turn will probably be getting through the trash.
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn View Post
    The requirements were a bit high, a tank with full 110 on the left side and pentamelded ruby accessories on the right side will not meet the minimum requirements for T9.


    With the nerfs the hardest part of each turn will probably be getting through the trash.
    I'd just switch when in instance haha, it's dumb that even SE thinks that higher ilevel is always better for tanks.
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    Its_Elodie's Avatar
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    Final Heaven
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Call me crazy, but I don't see the problem with allowing people to catch up on content that's 9 months old. The hardcore raiders have had that long to learn the mechanics for them, sell their turns, show off their high allagans, and now have the chance to move on to the more demanding raid content.

    As with anything, it's going to be outdated and people are going to have to move on. I'm sure there are plenty of casuals out there, like me, who would like to experience and clear as much of this game's content as possible at some point. Just because you have access to a regular static group and the time to be able to put into dedicated weekly farming, doesn't mean everyone else necessarily has had that same luxury. I really wish some people would get over their sense of self entitlement with this game and it's offerings to *every*one who pays their sub.
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Leviathan
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Its_Elodie View Post
    Call me crazy, but I don't see the problem with allowing people to catch up on content that's 9 months old. The hardcore raiders have had that long to learn the mechanics for them, sell their turns, show off their high allagans, and now have the chance to move on to the more demanding raid content.

    As with anything, it's going to be outdated and people are going to have to move on. I'm sure there are plenty of casuals out there, like me, who would like to experience and clear as much of this game's content as possible at some point. Just because you have access to a regular static group and the time to be able to put into dedicated weekly farming, doesn't mean everyone else necessarily has had that same luxury. I really wish some people would get over their sense of self entitlement with this game and it's offerings to *every*one who pays their sub.
    I'm happy that this will let some people actually clear, and experience (sort of) content further along in the raid tier and such. That's nice, it really is, and I understand why SE would do that, but I'm still sad that I won't be able to experience the content's mechanics, the real heart of the encounter, as it originally was ever again. I just missed out on experiencing some of the content.


    And, not that I'm specifically referring to you here, can we stop with the whole "anyone that's not happy about the nerf has obviously completed t1-13 and is a super elitist snob that hates and looks down upon all of us downtrodden and unfortunate casuals!"?
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    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I'm confident that I'd still be able to sell t9, DF still can't do t5 most of them time lmao.
    Yeah I don't get the whinning, doesn't this mean a lot more people will be buying T9 now? OP should be happy.
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    Kiroh's Avatar
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
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    polyhedral's Avatar
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    Polyhedral Dice
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Run selling is a real thing. It's broadcasted every day/night on twitch.tv. People from my server are broadcasting it, everyday, making serious bank off of it.

    Besides, SE are the ones who can see the number of people clearing second coil.
    They nerfed it, then obviously the numbers were low, maybe even more so on the console end of things.

    This will help more of the community, and you've got savage, like everyone else has been saying all along...
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    Lhei Fox
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    nothing and cry, nerfing was no surprise, and there are still a challenge in the second coil it has been out for awile.
    There are not many people who have downed Second Coil of Bahamut (Savage) t8 and t9 yet and T9 normal is difficult still.
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