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    Aku Ryu
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    This is how all MMOs work. If they don't nerf the mechanics directly, they do it though level cap increases and/or new gear.

    SCoB was nerfed in 2.3. Starting in 2.3 you could get 110 gear outside of SCoB, and you had groups going in there already full 110. That was a nerf. It was nerfed again in 2.4 with the addition of 120 gear. Those turns were never designed to be run with such high level gear.

    Want to talk about the ultimate nerf? In 6 months we'll have an expansion, and a level cap of 60. Nobody will be doing coil anymore. All 13 turns - completely irrelevant. Dead content. Only run for glamour or to see the story.

    Everyone likes throwing FFXI around like it's something special. Do you know how many times CoP got nerfed? All those HMNs you needed 60 people to kill can be soloed now. Know how many people run sky and sea content today? Not many. All those fond memories you have of dynamis? Completely irrelevant.

    This is how MMOs are. They evolve and change over time. You show me a MMO where the same content stayed hard forever, and I'll show you a dead game.
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    Last edited by Akuryu; 11-19-2014 at 03:12 AM.

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    Rodger Ritter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    This is how all MMOs work. If they don't nerf the mechanics directly, they do it though level cap increases and/or new gear.

    SCoB was nerfed in 2.3. Starting in 2.3 you could get 110 gear outside of SCoB, and you had groups going in there already full 110. That was a nerf. It was nerfed again in 2.4 with the addition of 120 gear. Those turns were never designed to be run with such high level gear.
    Highly debatable. Speeding up the phase transitions frequently makes the fights more difficult than easy. Apart from the Deathdealers as long as you handled the mechanics correctly (which no longer exist, the entire challenge) then the actual process of fighting the monsters wasn't really particularly threatening. Similar to Ramuh. Now there is no T7.
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    Kyri Sagitta
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    Haha Take that mercs! Ill be happily helping people beat t9 for that extra sold and the feel goods of helping people ^.- No complaints here! ^-^
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueodAjWZ0A4
    Ah, but will facing north-by-northeast at 2:45 a.m. while the moon is a waning crescent result in a 27% increase in your chances to synthesize HQ mythril ingots!? That is real the question! ~Fernehalwes~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyri View Post
    Haha Take that mercs! Ill be happily helping people beat t9 for that extra sold and the feel goods of helping people ^.- No complaints here! ^-^
    Wish was more people like you and less like this threads creator. The community would be far better of for it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backflippinbadger View Post
    My static was making good progress in second coil. It was actually fun. Now we don't have that option anymore and will probably go straight to t9.
    Same way statics felt on BCoB that hadnt completed it yet, whats the point of this post. Everyone already knew this was coming. At least with BCoB it was a legitimate surprise to what the nerfs would entail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyri View Post
    Haha Take that mercs! Ill be happily helping people beat t9 for that extra sold and the feel goods of helping people ^.- No complaints here! ^-^






    Posted this 3 hrs ago, since then got like 7 people wins in t6/7 and yay to sold! ALL DEM GOOD FEELS ALL AROUND!!<3333








    In the words of one of my favorite songs, "Don't worry, be happy now~"
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    Last edited by Kyri; 11-19-2014 at 06:43 AM.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueodAjWZ0A4
    Ah, but will facing north-by-northeast at 2:45 a.m. while the moon is a waning crescent result in a 27% increase in your chances to synthesize HQ mythril ingots!? That is real the question! ~Fernehalwes~

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    Drysfoet Bhaldaegsyn
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    My static was making good progress in second coil. It was actually fun. Now we don't have that option anymore and will probably go straight to t9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backflippinbadger View Post
    My static was making good progress in second coil. It was actually fun. Now we don't have that option anymore and will probably go straight to t9.
    Replace your higher than ilvl requirement gears currently ranging from mostly 110 to 120 on that character then try it, the challenge is still there. No option has been removed, it is as challenging as you want to make it just like all content in this game is but if you want to skip to T9 that's your choice.
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Im not upset because I'm an elitist wishing everyone would be miles behind me progression wise...

    Im upset because I never got to try T8/9 without nerfs. T7 was the most challenging thing I got to face in game so far and I haven't even cleared it yet. part of this is due to me being lazy, but still... why nerf it? Its in the DF, and we have access to i120 gear... people cleared it in i92... 28ilvs is a pretty big buff to the player... why nerf it into the ground even more?
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