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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Dragoons are not impacted the same way Summoners are because raid groups will always have two melees slots so they can still get spot in a End Game Raid. Their is only one caster slot in a raid group and the Black Mage automatically gets it. Every PF looking for FCOB static look exclusively for Black Mages. The Summoner issue in Final Fantasy XI has come to Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn Summoners are trash when it comes to End Game Raiding now.

    The Black Mage excels in Sustained Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts. Nerfing the Black Mage's Single Target Damage will cause more problems among the community then it will solve. Maybe to balance it SE should make the Summoner excel at Single Target Spike Damage and AoE Spike Damage it's a fair trade off since the Black Mage now steps all over the Summoner in every area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Dragoons are not impacted the same way Summoners are because raid groups will always have two melees slots so they can still get spot in a End Game Raid. Their is only one caster slot in a raid group and the Black Mage automatically gets it. Every PF looking for FCOB static look exclusively for Black Mages. The Summoner issue in Final Fantasy XI has come to Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn Summoners are trash when it comes to End Game Raiding now.

    The Black Mage excels in Sustained Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts. Maybe to balance it SE will make the Summoner excel at Single Target Spike Damage and AoE Spike Damage it's a fair trade off since the Black Mage now steps all over the Summoner. The Summoner should step all over the Black Mage.
    OP's static as well as mine and many others have two casters in them so your point is invalid.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    OP's static as well as mine and many others have two casters in them so your point is invalid.
    Peoples individuals statics don't represent the whole. The most common statics run White Mage, Scholar, Paladin, Warrior, Bard , Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Peoples individuals statics don't represent the whole. The most common statics run White Mage, Scholar, Paladin, Warrior, Bard , Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage.
    And you have the ability to know the comp of every static to determine a most common how exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday3six View Post
    And you have the ability to know the comp of every static to determine a most common how exactly?
    Damn your ninja post... ninja. >:x
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday3six View Post
    And you have the ability to know the comp of every static to determine a most common how exactly?
    Look at Party Finder and see which class is in demand. I pugged for several weeks with different statics as a White Mage and Bard, Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage. Even in End Game Dungeons I see rarely see Summoner's I think they just disappeared into thin air when it comes to End Game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Look at Party Finder and see which class is in demand. I pugged for several weeks with different statics as a White Mage and Bard, Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage. Even in End Game Dungeons I see rarely see Summoner's I think they just disappeared into thin air when it comes to End Game.
    That is anecdotal, based on your own personal experience, however that is in no way representing the playerbase as a whole. Also you know we can look up what you have leveled as Akiza Izinski. You only have SMN/SCH and WHM at 50. What is the PC name/s that you have BRD, MNK, NIN, DRG, and BLM under?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Look at Party Finder and see which class is in demand. I pugged for several weeks with different statics as a White Mage and Bard, Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage. Even in End Game Dungeons I see rarely see Summoner's I think they just disappeared into thin air when it comes to End Game.
    Your perspective is one of the several millions that play this game. Just because you don't see any doesn't mean nobody plays the class. I've gone though dozens of DF dungeons and haven't seen a single Bard. Obviously nobody plays bard. Bard buffs go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Dragoons are not impacted the same way Summoners are because raid groups will always have two melees slots so they can still get spot in a End Game Raid. Their is only one caster slot in a raid group and the Black Mage automatically gets it. Every PF looking for FCOB static look exclusively for Black Mages. The Summoner issue in Final Fantasy XI has come to Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn Summoners are trash when it comes to End Game Raiding now.

    The Black Mage excels in Sustained Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts. Maybe to balance it SE will make the Summoner excel at Single Target Spike Damage and AoE Spike Damage it's a fair trade off since the Black Mage now steps all over the Summoner. The Summoner should step all over the Black Mage.
    Spike is the same thing as burst and Dragoons are in dire need of adjustments. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
    Spike is the same thing as burst and Dragoons are in dire need of adjustments. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
    Summoners should excel in Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts then.
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