Thread: 2.4 SMN Class Issues

Originally Posted by dday3six

O'RLY!?!

Why on just the other page you were insulting intelligence, then I distinctly remember you editing out a few choice buzzword remarks, and getting screen capped in the act rather recently.

Of course people care more about attacking others instead of discussing anything productive. You can go ahead and revel in how bad you owned me because that is all your worried about. Notice how those screen caps were removed? It's against to rules to do that to anyone, i was tired and dealing with people who more often than not show aggression towards others.

I am a man i can admit to my mistakes. I also regret my decisions and tried to fix things before things got out of hand. However someone took that choice away from me. My point still stands try to show a bit more respect, i have learned from my past mistakes.

I guess no one can ever possibly write anything worthwhile just because they made past mistakes.

How do people learn if we do not make mistakes?

Originally Posted by dday3six

All I'm saying is the pot shouldn't call the kettle black.

I know better than anyone how black the pot is and i will gladly tell the kettle he is black because i experienced being that pot. I have enough intelligence to grow and learn from my experiences. Labels do not hold much meaning to me...i will not always be the same person. People change.

Originally Posted by Ardan

I wasn't even trying and found this.

This one was free. You can find the rest yourself in his history.

Both of her ideas on that page is a bit excessive but i do not see why they couldn't have been refined to be more balanced or sensible. Like i said before he/she just throws a bunch of ideas at the wall to see if they stick, he could do better by explaining himself a bit better.

For example the 20 second primal idea could easily be refined to an idea that summons primals for LB instead that sacrifices pet in order to do it. Not only did i use one of his ideas to come up with my own, i show him how his idea could be refined to be more sensible.

Now whether you like my idea or not is entirely opinion based. Just because lore is a certain way now doesn't mean that SE can't come up with new concepts to explain new abilities of how summoners could get new abilities. For example:

Some crazy genius npc could find a brand new corrupted crystal that allows primals to be submissive to summoner, kinda how cid was able to make the airship fly through garuda's storm....or how garuda was essentially defeated by the light warrior's aura after the fight. You don't know if those two concepts that are already established through in game story alone could allow players to control or put a "leash" on primals.

Her other idea on the page about 2 hour abilities for each job was a bit excessive though and needed more thought put into it.