Thread: 2.4 SMN Class Issues

Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

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I didn't say summoner was not capable on T10 at all but that a BLM is outdoing in all situations per mana.
Double Flares and Fire IIs give the same numbers with less constraints.

Rotation wise, this is quite close to what I do. The exception is that with good DPS you can't get full uptime on any of these mobs cause they are blown up. In my group, Nin, Brd, Blm and Sch are all getting damage. Only Dots on the second set get a full duration (with Contagion). First set dies fairly quickly.

For second group of adds(55%), I do the LB, (usually precasting it) Dot up + Bane one side (Tank we free up first), start dotting the other side, and then somewhere in there I get back aetherflow and then I use a Raging Strikes + Int Potion then to Contagion and Bane a full set of strong Dots on that third set of Adds.

Not to mention, I find myself going into those phases with not many Aetherflow stacks. Usually one on hand, while Aetherflow still has say 30 - 45 seconds cd going into adds. This rotation seems both mana intensive, no? Wouldn't have to hold back on a fester before add phase or your average party DPS is low enough where you get more time before pushing into add phase to have stacks ready to do all this multibane-ing. I'm not saying its impossible just not 100% viable with some intense DPS pushing.

Originally Posted by Havenchild

I didn't say summoner was not capable on T10 at all but that a BLM is outdoing in all situations per mana.
Double Flares and Fire IIs give the same numbers with less constraints.

We usually do 5 stacks on the first add phase and 8 on the second, if that gives a good representation of the group DPS.

Sometimes I cut it close to DOT the MT Sister in order to Bane it to the Brother before the sister dies now that everyone is getting more used to the fight. (we kill OT adds first)
This gives me two full sets of dots on OT adds + 1 full set on OT Brother (3 sets), then a full set of Contagion'd Dots on MT adds + 1/2 on the sister and full on the Brother.

So in total 7.5 sets.

I don't find T10 Mana intensive at all. So far I'm pushing close to 500 DPS and could do the entire fight without Ballad. I might start to use Blizz II on some of the adds to push even higher during those add phases.

Edited for derpyness

Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

Sorry but, there's no way you did 500 DPS without mana support and an i110 weapon. I did everything perfectly in that fight, have an I115 weapon and came out at 450. Granted, our bard doesn't play ballad on T10, but even with ballad it would probably be close to 480 or so and that's with an I115 weapon.

You are right. I did some more parses on T10 without Garuda's damage being automatically added to mine and it was lower. It was adding almost exactly 60 DPS to my total. Sorry for the misinformation. I've never run into that before other than when another Garuda was in the party.


Also, I did record some video's but it only recorded my game and not the overlay windows with DPS.

Originally Posted by ViviAnimus

What is your gear, Judge Xero? On pretty perfect runs on my BLM with LB3 on adds I usually get around 420 DPS. I have played with good Summoners as well and excuse me for doubting, but near 500 DPS on T10 as a Summoner without mana support. I'm going to put this bluntly. Provide concrete proof, or most people will think you're full of shit.

Was actually thinking that lol. Was looking into how to make a quality video. It's one thing to math it out, but in practice it doesn't always work the same.

I will see if I have the hardware to record/game. Not sure if there would be an issue with 1440p resolution.

Edited: Here's the gear I was wearing http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OLCU