Thread: 2.4 SMN Class Issues

Originally Posted by Akiza

Dragoons are not impacted the same way Summoners are because raid groups will always have two melees slots so they can still get spot in a End Game Raid. Their is only one caster slot in a raid group and the Black Mage automatically gets it. Every PF looking for FCOB static look exclusively for Black Mages. The Summoner issue in Final Fantasy XI has come to Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn Summoners are trash when it comes to End Game Raiding now.

The Black Mage excels in Sustained Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts. Maybe to balance it SE will make the Summoner excel at Single Target Spike Damage and AoE Spike Damage it's a fair trade off since the Black Mage now steps all over the Summoner. The Summoner should step all over the Black Mage.

OP's static as well as mine and many others have two casters in them so your point is invalid.

Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

OP's static as well as mine and many others have two casters in them so your point is invalid.

Peoples individuals statics don't represent the whole. The most common statics run White Mage, Scholar, Paladin, Warrior, Bard , Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage.

Originally Posted by Akiza

Peoples individuals statics don't represent the whole. The most common statics run White Mage, Scholar, Paladin, Warrior, Bard , Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage.

And you have the ability to know the comp of every static to determine a most common how exactly?

Originally Posted by dday3six

And you have the ability to know the comp of every static to determine a most common how exactly?

Damn your ninja post... ninja. >:x

Originally Posted by dday3six

And you have the ability to know the comp of every static to determine a most common how exactly?

Look at Party Finder and see which class is in demand. I pugged for several weeks with different statics as a White Mage and Bard, Monk, Ninja or Dragoon and Black Mage. Even in End Game Dungeons I see rarely see Summoner's I think they just disappeared into thin air when it comes to End Game.

Originally Posted by Akiza

Dragoons are not impacted the same way Summoners are because raid groups will always have two melees slots so they can still get spot in a End Game Raid. Their is only one caster slot in a raid group and the Black Mage automatically gets it. Every PF looking for FCOB static look exclusively for Black Mages. The Summoner issue in Final Fantasy XI has come to Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn Summoners are trash when it comes to End Game Raiding now.

The Black Mage excels in Sustained Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts. Maybe to balance it SE will make the Summoner excel at Single Target Spike Damage and AoE Spike Damage it's a fair trade off since the Black Mage now steps all over the Summoner. The Summoner should step all over the Black Mage.

Spike is the same thing as burst and Dragoons are in dire need of adjustments. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

Originally Posted by Ardan

Spike is the same thing as burst and Dragoons are in dire need of adjustments. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

Summoners should excel in Single Target Burst and AoE Bursts then.

Odd, my Dragoon friend on Leviathan was pretty clear in saying he was having a hard time finding an FCOB static despite having T11 clear experience.

Originally Posted by Havenchild

SMN also not good at T10.

Dot/Bane 1st to kill set of adds. Miasma II(Have SF in place before they spawn)

Dot, Miasma II Contagion other sister - Bane (put garuda on 2nd set son)

Dot 1st set son in reverse

Attack Sister till dots wear. Dot - Bane to Son - Attack Son. Enjoy almost 700 DPS with near 100% dot uptime/usage.

2nd set is essentially the same. You just contagion the last spawn. Minus the loss from being on LB duty