Why make it so difficult to gear up our non-caster DPS?

[kyuven]

The fool is clearly you, for ninja's poetic shares armor model with bard... ....THEY BOTH SHARE MODELS WHY.

Oh, and Gloam (monk) shared models with Auroal (Bard) too....

They have slightly different designs and coloring schemes. Also, BRD doesn't share armor with NIN, they have their own unique sets. There IS a subtle different between the Scouting and Aiming sets, mostly in the color schemes and stats, as BRD and NIN actually have different stat emphases.

[RiceisNice]

They have slightly different designs and coloring schemes. Also, BRD doesn't share armor with NIN, they have their own unique sets. There IS a subtle different between the Scouting and Aiming sets, mostly in the color schemes and stats, as BRD and NIN actually have different stat emphases.

They're recolors of each other is where I'm getting at. It's also that stat difference that makes me want to not get the bard top...

[kyuven]

They're recolors of each other is where I'm getting at. It's also that stat difference that makes me want to not get the bard top...

i know the feeling, but understand why. They want to keep people from getting BIS from just the poetics gear, while at the same time making the forthcoming 24 man raid gear viable for just-under-coil level.

[Ophie-Mio]

God plz no. It's so nice to have a decent set of gear for my PLD/WHM that I get for free while gearing my WAR/SCH. Great for those instances where I'm in a group that has one class already but wants one of each for LB bonus/Buffs/Whatever. It's not necessarily going to have the *best* secondary stats on it, but it's going to be a whole lot better than what I would have if I needed to gear them separately (ie: it would be 40 ilvls behind).

Unfortunately I pay attention to all my stats and the lack of stats of what I want for my specific jobs irritates me. If I want my SCH to be fully crit based, it won't happen cause of the system as it currently is. I'm not calling you specifically lazy but the mentality of some of the gamers who play MMOs is lazy.

I'm used to an MMO where I got the exact stats on the gear I wanted and two healing jobs had different things. Why would a smn and blm have the same gear if they don't even use the same stats? Why would a smn want spellspeed? They wouldn't. Why would my powerhouse cure WHM care about the off chance that the cure crits for more and just overflows into nothing? It doesn't.

I'll admit that it is nice that my blm automatically gears my smn but as someone who gears jobs at a decent rate, I'd rather work more and spend more time busy in an MMO than not.

[RazeLandale]

I can see the mindset of not wanting monks in plate or ninjas in frilly pink ballroom gowns. So while I think there's times where you need to make something class specific I think they should ease up when that's not the case. Especially when you're just going to palette swap.

Also, you can't see belts at all so they should ALWAYS be cross class.

[Kewitt]

What they need to do... is make Every job get it's own set... I'm sick of not getting my own gear as a warrior.

Reduce the cost of gear and give all jobs their own set.

[Trixxy]

Quit reading at "they use int"

[Ultimatecalibur]

What they need to do... is make Every job get it's own set... I'm sick of not getting my own gear as a warrior.

Reduce the cost of gear and give all jobs their own set.

That works great for purchasable/quest reward gear, but sucks for dropped gear. Could you imagine what it would be like running the Expert dungeons if 10+ 6 piece sets were dropping in it instead of the 6 Ancient equipment tokens? It also ends up forcing them to make twice as many sets for each tier if each class gets 3 of their own gear sets.

[Niwashi]

Its pretty unfair that melee dps don't have shared gear (except acc) while tanks, healers and casters can share gear.

That certainly seems unfair to someone, but there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus on whether it's the DoW DPS who are disadvantaged by not being able to share gear, or the casters and tanks who are disadvantaged by not being able to have their own individual gear.

One alternative that might offer something to both sides would be sets that can be shared between similar jobs, but don't have the "Unique" tag, so players who want their jobs to look different can get two of them and glamour them differently.

[Kiara1]

That works great for purchasable/quest reward gear, but sucks for dropped gear. Could you imagine what it would be like running the Expert dungeons if 10+ 6 piece sets were dropping in it instead of the 6 Ancient equipment tokens? It also ends up forcing them to make twice as many sets for each tier if each class gets 3 of their own gear sets.

They could keep the token system they are using in the new dungeons though, I didn't know how I felt about it first, but Since my alt got to level 50 I have got one ilvl 60 ring and one ilvl 70 earrings, and I did all of the dungeons twice. Now I hate rng more than anything (I'll probably change my mind if something I need drops soon)