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    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    If you're Scathe is gimped, that's your fault. ilvl80 sync, and I still crit Scathes in the 1200-1300 range
    January 29 2015
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    Player TheWaywardWind's Avatar
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    Alexander Miller
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    While I understand how frustrating it is to be playing as a Black Mage that doesn't even have the ability to cast a single spell for more than five seconds, BLMs are seriously powered up on their own despite this.

    What you're asking for is ridiculous; crippling an opponent team for THIRTY SECONDS is beyond ridiculous. In that time, you can completely capture a flag, burn down the entire team like it means nothing and be well on your way to the next flag. Black Mages aren't underpowered just because you can't annihilate a group of eight people in six seconds with flare.

    As someone who often plays as a scholar/white mage, black mages are usually my biggest threat. Why? Because they can attack at a distance and rip through my health like it means nothing. When left unchecked by teammates, a black mage can sleep the rest of my team and rip through my defenses with phantom dart and obliterate me.

    Other DPS have an easier time getting moves out, sure, but nothing makes me cringe more than when I see that phantom dart + fire combo. You knock like 800+ health off in two seconds. It FEELS physically painful and it's not even actually happening to me.
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    In my opinion there are 2 cases:
    BLM in Wolves Den and BLM in Frontline.

    During a Frontline, where u can find A LOT of target for your AoE (I mean mostly Flare), BLM without any nerf will be really a pain, with raging strikes if u cast 2 flare (Fire III, wait untill the right moment, Surecast+Flare, Manadraw+Switcast+Flare) you can do in 2 or 3 sec about 2000 Hp of damage (also u can use Phantom dart or consider Foe requiem).
    If 2 BLM do it together they can devastate a party almost alone, so yes, they will need an adjustment, I tought to a longer recast time for Flare (like 6-8 sec), not such powerful nerf to Swiftast T-T

    When they nerfed it, I started playing BLM more like a crowd controller (yes it can do a lot of things, but your party can nullify all with a single AoE and the enemies gain resistence really fast :/ ) then a DPS. It could be intended but... I feel BLM very fragile in the battlefield when someone just try to annoy u.

    Instead in wolves' den, the advantage is that if u sleep someone, probably no one will wake him up xD
    BUT, probably your first sleep/bind will be purified, then u have only 8 second and u can't hit that target, is this so powerful to justify the Swiftacst nerf even in a 4vs4?
    (only remember, a swiftcast every 1 min).
    Maybe I'm playing in the wrong way, I'm not the god of pvp, but in WD if I'm the ranged (BLM) and the other ranged is a Bard.... eh.... I consider me dead and most of all I act more like a Healer then a DPS in that case, trying to survive.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Do I feel a tad bit sorry for black mages?

    LOLNO.
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    Fara Venator
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Do I feel a tad bit sorry for black mages?

    LOLNO.
    But thats mostly because your butt is still devastated over cometor. This thread was started before 2.5
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    Vangl Stain
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    Yea man. Black mage got nerfed today. I'm lovin' it.

    http://puu.sh/fdpXp/d663d5ba1d.jpg
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    Yukari Hana
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vangl View Post
    Yea man. Black mage got nerfed today. I'm lovin' it.

    http://puu.sh/fdpXp/d663d5ba1d.jpg
    Kudos to you. I think the patch is fair, and does no longer bother me so much, they are easier to avoid and usually people not paying atention are caught on them.

    B-but they are nerfing BLM it's so unfair please, stop QQing.

    - Random awful Black Mage, crying that they are suffering so much and unbalanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post

    B-but they are nerfing BLM it's so unfair please, stop QQing.

    - Random awful Black Mage, crying that they are suffering so much and unbalanced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    seems people on this board loves to put words in other people's mouth.
    mmmmhmmmmmmmm
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    Hand Holding
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    The white mages keeping the black mages down.
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    E'ohi Eskhatos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    People who complain about nerfing BLM for pvp understand that its fundamentally overpowered in pve right? Not only are they unmatched in aoe damage but they are also the only job/class that has no real issue with resources period. Even with the nerfs I'd bet that BLM is still top of the aoe damage food chain. Even with the nerfs BLM pulls way ahead of many other classes in slaughter. Honestly if we were going to nerf anything I'd imagine BLM could still take some and remain pretty good to play.

    Really if anything else was nerfed quite as much it'd be unplayable. That it remains and even thrives at all shows that the nerfs are justified. They may have heavily nerfed it but it was never balanced to begin with.
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