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    RakaMaimhov's Avatar
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    Raka Maimhov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I honestly never understood why Dragoon has lower magic defense... I mean... It's a Job that is supposed to specialize in fighting magical fire breathing lizards, right? If anything I'd expect them to have the highest magic defense...
    This right here, folks.
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I honestly never understood why Dragoon has lower magic defense... I mean... It's a Job that is supposed to specialize in fighting magical fire breathing lizards, right? If anything I'd expect them to have the highest magic defense...
    This is what I caught, and thought.. lol, are they serious? It's like no wonder Ishgard still fighting them Dragons.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz View Post
    This is what I caught, and thought.. lol, are they serious? It's like no wonder Ishgard still fighting them Dragons.
    Then Derplander strolls into Ishgard to help, and goes "Let me nerf my defense and delete my magic defense to help with these dragons!", before promptly using Elusive Jump to fall off a bridge.

    It would actually be kind of nice if they made Dragoons low magic defense somehow mechanically relevant... Like, an ability which absorbs 50% magic damage and enhances your next Jump with it. That way OK they have low magic defense, but at least they're using it to create a bigger boost of damage (taking 1000 damage with low magic defense and adding 500 to a Jump > taking 900 with high magic defense and only adding 450 to Jump).
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    Mocha Leporina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    It would actually be kind of nice if they made Dragoons low magic defense somehow mechanically relevant... Like, an ability which absorbs 50% magic damage and enhances your next Jump with it. That way OK they have low magic defense, but at least they're using it to create a bigger boost of damage (taking 1000 damage with low magic defense and adding 500 to a Jump > taking 900 with high magic defense and only adding 450 to Jump).
    I really like this idea.
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    KaedrianLiang's Avatar
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I honestly never understood why Dragoon has lower magic defense... I mean... It's a Job that is supposed to specialize in fighting magical fire breathing lizards, right? If anything I'd expect them to have the highest magic defense...
    I've been trying to figure out why Ishgard hasn't won the war against the dragon horde. From the context of what npc's and main scenario suggest, i would say they are slowly bleeding to death!
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    In that video its actually your whms fault that the drg died. Nobody is stoneskined for nerve cloud. When the party is killing the egg he has enough time to stoneskin everyone because very little damage is going out on the party at that point. You want a change when the fight isn't being properly executed.

    The whole mdef thing is just a flavor type thing most likly they can off tank adds better then say a mage. Some people use a drg to tank the garuda ex add because they have higher physical def so they only need 1 tank.
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    Ryvella Du'gal
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    In that video its actually your whms fault that the drg died. Nobody is stoneskined for nerve cloud. When the party is killing the egg he has enough time to stoneskin everyone because very little damage is going out on the party at that point. You want a change when the fight isn't being properly executed.

    The whole mdef thing is just a flavor type thing most likly they can off tank adds better then say a mage. Some people use a drg to tank the garuda ex add because they have higher physical def so they only need 1 tank.
    They don't actually seem to have a white mage. I just see two scholars. Dragoon in our static never gets one shotted there with proper stoneskin buff.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyl View Post
    They don't actually seem to have a white mage. I just see two scholars. Dragoon in our static never gets one shotted there with proper stoneskin buff.
    SCH can still stoneskin there is no reason not to do it almost no damage is going out when you are killing the egg. Do you want to take the risk of someone dying cause the game decides to hit them in the higher damage range?
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    Ryvella Du'gal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SCH can still stoneskin there is no reason not to do it almost no damage is going out when you are killing the egg. Do you want to take the risk of someone dying cause the game decides to hit them in the higher damage range?
    No, I agree with you. There's plenty of skills and spells you can use to to make sure your entire group survives that aoe and it doesn't seem they were using all of them and the dragoon suffers because of it. I was simply pointing out there was no white mage.
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    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SCH can still stoneskin there is no reason not to do it almost no damage is going out when you are killing the egg. Do you want to take the risk of someone dying cause the game decides to hit them in the higher damage range?
    interesting thing, no one had stone skin. even with stone skin, unless he was topped off, he still would have died. OP said he took 6.6k dmg. take 600 for stone skin, and still not enough.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 11-16-2014 at 09:22 AM.

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