If You Tanks Can't Handle Your Oversized Pulls...

[Atomnium]

If You Tanks Can't Handle Your Oversized Pulls...

No offenses but it's kind of easy to blame the tanks without real informations of your past experiences, many factors can come into account :/ bad healers, careless/poors dps and of course d*ckheads tanks is likely going to happen too.

The real problem is lack of communications between players when starting the duty.
If as a tank, even if you know when to pop CDs and "kite" properly a big pack of mobs, it won't be enough if you didn't checked and asked your team mates before, especially if your healer is new to the game + wearing full I55-90... It's a simple logic result to wipe-hard with bad parameters.
For a matter of respect, even if you consider yourself as a good and well geared player, you have to carefuly examine and talk with your team mates before trying to do a speed run.

[Fated]

The big pulls are gated for the most part anyway except in Snowcloak. Big pulls are a party wide effort, the faster things die, the less dangerous they are. I've had many big pulls that should have been perfectly fine end up in disaster because the DPS don't know how to effectively take them down. Dragoons especially not knowing their AoE capabilities.

[Starvald]

lol, had a nice experience in the entry dungeon Ruins of Amdapor yesterday. Healer was crying for big pulls, tank followed up on that....I think we wiped 3 or 4 times during the run. I checked the gear of the two and it was actually looking ok. They were way overgeared for the encounter...
So....it is not only the gear that is a requirement...you also have to know what to do during those moments.

[Marisela]

The big pulls are gated for the most part anyway except in Snowcloak. Big pulls are a party wide effort, the faster things die, the less dangerous they are. I've had many big pulls that should have been perfectly fine end up in disaster because the DPS don't know how to effectively take them down. Dragoons especially not knowing their AoE capabilities.

What most Dragoon do when they see big pull in Dungeons. This happens like 80% of the times.

DRG: "Oh look! Big Pull! Must AOE."

Ring of Thorn, Ring of Thorn, Ring of Thorn for 120 - 150 damage over and over again.

[DeadRiser]

If you as a tank decide to pull large packs of mobs, and didn't ask the healer.. then you shouldn't do it.

I did not consent to being tortured into spamming cure I and II. ESPECIALLY in these new dungeons where mobs hurt when they hit.

I like to help dps as a healer, not make your "speed runs" faster.

[Delorean]

If you as a tank decide to pull large packs of mobs, and didn't ask the healer.. then you shouldn't do it.

I did not consent to being tortured into spamming cure I and II. ESPECIALLY in these new dungeons where mobs hurt when they hit.

Why is it such a big deal that you might fail?

I do not maintain a set of equipment focused on survivability to use in an environment where there is no threat to survival and find that the rate at which I can exchange my survivability for damage to be wanting.

Real tanks are fearless machines that are begging for the constant threat of death. =D

[MilesSaintboroguh]

People are in a rush to get to nowhere.

[jars]

If you as a tank decide to pull large packs of mobs, and didn't ask the healer.. then you shouldn't do it.

I did not consent to being tortured into spamming cure I and II. ESPECIALLY in these new dungeons where mobs hurt when they hit.

I like to help dps as a healer, not make your "speed runs" faster.

if I wanted to dps I would queue as a dps

[Novaura]

No offenses but it's kind of easy to blame the tanks without real informations of your past experiences.

You did read my OP right?

[Dyvid]

I think tanks should also ask the party before hand. Also doing a few small pull to get the feel of the party goes a long way.