Annoying Vale?
Prefer to not run any dungeon for 30 minutes than to run AV for 30+ minutes.
Annoying Vale?
Prefer to not run any dungeon for 30 minutes than to run AV for 30+ minutes.


If any dungeons need "adjustment" - this would be it. Get rid of those pesky adds on first room before boss. Lower the poison effect so you only need to eat fruit every 4 stacks. Lower Boss HP so they die much faster. Or add a few "shiny new exclusive" crafting materials here, and more people will run this. Doubling the XP earn from mobs would also help, since it will be come far more time effective to do this dungeon VS doing levee quest + FATE at lvl 47.
Or you could, I don't know...learn to play?If any dungeons need "adjustment" - this would be it. Get rid of those pesky adds on first room before boss. Lower the poison effect so you only need to eat fruit every 4 stacks. Lower Boss HP so they die much faster. Or add a few "shiny new exclusive" crafting materials here, and more people will run this. Doubling the XP earn from mobs would also help, since it will be come far more time effective to do this dungeon VS doing levee quest + FATE at lvl 47.


The perfect sub-50 dungeon. I love it, not too easy, not too hard, just fine. Be aware and don't suck, it'll go fine.



It's a mechanics-heavy dungeon with many layered things that will cause wipes if anyone in the pt doesn't know what's going on or is slow to react. Unfortunately that's often a near-given in DF, so many people will gladly eat the 30-minute lockout rather than try to drag themselves through an AV run unless it's with friends.
I like it, just takes awhile.
I think the main reason that it's avoided is that it's so close to 50. Sastasha, aside form being easy, is going to get repeated a lot because it can always come up in your roulette. AV has a tiny window of relevance. Once you hit 50 it's no more or less relevant that any other sub 50 dungeon. Low level roulette rewards are the same across the board and Animus books hit pretty much all of the dungeons (except the ones newer than the books).
Being the highest level sub 50 dungeon it's probably a bit harder than most of the others and a lot less relevant to normal play so people are less familiar with it. It's not exactly difficult, but some of the mechanics might seem stressful for new players.




Yuck. Hate that place. Hate healing it more. Go with friends. Dunno if it got nerfed or not since a year ago, I still prefer to avoid it. You don't have your level 50 eek! spells in there and I guess that's the most frustrating.


The reason I avoid it is that when I started playing, the dungeon was broken and laggy. It took me more than 10 different groups to only kill first boss. And I dont even want to know how many times it took to actually clear it.
I was about to quit the game when I finally found a group that was patient enough to just keep wiping until we beat the last boss 5 min left on the clock.
i had been stuck on it for a month, and I needed the clear to unlock amdapor keep to get my first relic.
Yeah SE didnt impress me when I finally hit 50 and couldnt do any content due to lag on their part




I actually get excited when I get AV in Low Level Roulette. ^^
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