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  1. #31
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    Prototype909's Avatar
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    Haken Browning
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    With echo buff the only thing you need to pay attention to is mechanics, you could face-roll your rotation and probably still out DPS the original numbers of people who cleared those fights prior to echo (Or just tank hits like Death Sentence without cooldowns up because your VIT pool is so high). If you can't deal with mechanics, then learn them or else you're just going to get stuck again, and again, and again in future fights. Mechanics -are- the fights in this game, I can understand and accept why echo buff exists. It's for people who aren't able to execute optimal rotations, heal/cooldown timings to give them a chance in fights with role checks. That doesn't mean that SE has any responsibility to make the fights easier mechanically, because it just gets harder from there on out. If someone got stuck on Titan Hard Mode for long enough would it make any sense to say "Man sorry you're stuck on Titan Hard Mode, we'll just let you skip this fight and head on to Titan Extreme - I'm sure you'll do better in there". No, it wouldn't. No matter how old or irrelevant content becomes if you can't clear it with the help SE is providing you then maybe you deserve to be stuck back there.
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  2. #32
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    you could face-roll your rotation and probably still out DPS the original numbers of people who cleared those fights prior to echo
    No. You grossly underestimate how utterly atrocious some of the player base is at DPS. With i110 and +20% echo, they are doing less than i85 players in 2.0 in T5. Conflags are still somehow dangerous even though the potential damage output by players is more than double with current gear cap and echo in there.
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    Last edited by Ellatrix; 11-16-2014 at 06:35 AM.

  3. #33
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    No. You grossly underestimate how utterly atrocious some of the player base is at DPS. With i110 and +20% echo, they are doing less than i85 players in 2.0 in T5. Conflags are still somehow dangerous even though the potential damage output by players is more than double with current gear cap and echo in there.
    Maybe he never tryed T5 with DF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  4. #34
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    How about increased limit break generation with echo?
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  5. #35
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    You do realize with higher movement speed you can straight up kite the boss?
    The point is to move out of Marked AOE attack The boss could move at the same seem, Just the AOE attack/ Marked attack you would have a chance to move out of range.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    How about increased limit break generation with echo?
    This would also be very useful.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  6. #36
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Here's an idea: go play NIN it has an innate movement speed buff. Or play tank so you can not care if you get hit by extra stuff.
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