An idea to make echo better.

[Luvbunny]

I actually thought, that echo is to artificially boost player's gear stats without altering the mechanics of fight. Just like if it was a player with better gear.

But the problem is all those boost don't really help you on mechanic that simply one shot you, and you cannot get raised afterwards.

[Prototype909]

With echo buff the only thing you need to pay attention to is mechanics, you could face-roll your rotation and probably still out DPS the original numbers of people who cleared those fights prior to echo (Or just tank hits like Death Sentence without cooldowns up because your VIT pool is so high). If you can't deal with mechanics, then learn them or else you're just going to get stuck again, and again, and again in future fights. Mechanics -are- the fights in this game, I can understand and accept why echo buff exists. It's for people who aren't able to execute optimal rotations, heal/cooldown timings to give them a chance in fights with role checks. That doesn't mean that SE has any responsibility to make the fights easier mechanically, because it just gets harder from there on out. If someone got stuck on Titan Hard Mode for long enough would it make any sense to say "Man sorry you're stuck on Titan Hard Mode, we'll just let you skip this fight and head on to Titan Extreme - I'm sure you'll do better in there". No, it wouldn't. No matter how old or irrelevant content becomes if you can't clear it with the help SE is providing you then maybe you deserve to be stuck back there.

[Ellatrix]

you could face-roll your rotation and probably still out DPS the original numbers of people who cleared those fights prior to echo

No. You grossly underestimate how utterly atrocious some of the player base is at DPS. With i110 and +20% echo, they are doing less than i85 players in 2.0 in T5. Conflags are still somehow dangerous even though the potential damage output by players is more than double with current gear cap and echo in there.

[Yukiko]

No. You grossly underestimate how utterly atrocious some of the player base is at DPS. With i110 and +20% echo, they are doing less than i85 players in 2.0 in T5. Conflags are still somehow dangerous even though the potential damage output by players is more than double with current gear cap and echo in there.

Maybe he never tryed T5 with DF...