Retainers - Cut Non-Quick Exploration Times

[HakuroDK]

Hey folks! So as you well know, when sending a retainer out on a venture, there are three categories: Hunting/Fishing/Gathering/Mining, Quick Exploration, and another type of exploration that differs depending on class.

NOTE: THIS TOPIC DOES NOT AFFECT REGULAR HUNTING/FISHING/GATHERING/MINING OR QUICK EXPLORATIONS. PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

Now, Hunting/Fishing/Gathering/Mining and Quick Exploration both never take longer than an hour. However, this third type of exploration takes a whopping 18 hours to complete and the items brought back, while impressive, don't really seem to warrant a full 18 hours, namely due to things like quantity of items.

If I sent my PGL retainer out to do one of these non-Quick Explorations, they would bring me back a stack of three, maybe four items and some Allagan Coins. For 18 full hours of work, I'd expect them to be a lot more generous with their findings, bringing back either full stacks of items or a larger array of random items that a normal person would expect to get after an 18-hour day.

My suggestions (Pick One):

-Reduce Retainer Exploration time from 18 hours to 12 hours. (EDIT: Changed from 4 hours because I derped.)

-Allow retainers to grab full stacks of items or a variety of items all at once.

-Add options for how long you want your retainer to go out for. The more time selected, the more items he brings back when he does come back, the higher chance of getting rare items, and the higher chance some of those items will be high quality (Note that, if this venture is cancelled, he brings back nothing.)

18 hours just seems like it's cheating the players a bit.

[Altijacek]

I'm a bit upset about the 18 hours thing because it makes it NEAR impossible to complete the challenge log unless you pay money. Of course, the challenge log gain is minimal but it's something. And for those completionists how can't afford an extra retainer it must really suck. That said, reducing it to 4 hours is silly. It's such a big difference that you almost seem spoiled for asking that, haha.

I would suggest adding the OPTION to change it from 18 to 12 BUT increasing the venture cost to 4 or 6, whichever SE deems more balanced.

[Everdark]

18 hours only to come back with a fish. and a few coins.

Time well spent.

[Limecat]

Don't forget dem high-rank hunting trips, where your retainer keeps bringing back coeurl skins and meat, and sometimes if you're really lucky a single crafting mat that's worth about 10k instead of 1 gil.

[Shioban]

Retainer ventures are meant to be a casual and optional feature, it's not designed to be the most lucrative fast-paced end-game rush. The reason they're 18 hours is that you're hoping for a high-ticket and rare item such as a minion.

-Reduce Retainer Exploration time from 18 hours to 4 hours.

That's an insane difference, that's far far too much of a reduction.

-Allow retainers to grab full stacks of items or a variety of items all at once.

RMT Heaven. Imagine it. RMT logs in "Oh look, fleece is needed again. Time to set all 50 of my retainers across my characters to do fleece for a few hours!"

-Add options for how long you want your retainer to go out for. The more time selected, the more items he brings back when he does come back, the higher chance of getting rare items, and the higher chance some of those items will be high quality (Note that, if this venture is cancelled, he brings back nothing.)

This adds in more complexity, more balancing time and essentially more time wasted on something so trivial.

18 hours just seems like it's cheating the players a bit.

Seeing as it's meant to be one of those "Do it now, check tomorrow" things. It shouldn't really be that much of an issue.

I'm a bit upset about the 18 hours thing because it makes it NEAR impossible to complete the challenge log unless you pay money.

Go to the retainer, click "Quick Ventures" and pay them two ventures to go off for an hour, when they come back it'll count towards your challenge log if a few thousand gil really matters that much.

You're welcome.

[kyuven]

RMT Heaven. Imagine it. RMT logs in "Oh look, fleece is needed again. Time to set all 50 of my retainers across my characters to do fleece for a few hours!"

He was talking about the 18 hour ventures, you know the ones where you can't specify what they'll bring you? So you can easily get a full stack of something nice like fleece...or a full stack of chub.
I approve, but what i'd like is something akin to what was mentioned above: the option to reduce the amount of time for the task by investing more ventures.

[Hyouretsuzan]

Can't get enough of those allagan tin pieces and coeurl meat.

[Intaki]

Pretty sure the primary purpose of the 18 hour ventures is to get a buttload of experience points for your retainers without needing to log on every single hour.

[kyuven]

Pretty sure the primary purpose of the 18 hour ventures is to get a buttload of experience points for your retainers without needing to log on every single hour.

The question becomes why the ones that require lvl 50 to do also give a buttload of exp and no additional items (other than a chance at rarer items like minions)

[Sapphic]

Go to the retainer, click "Quick Ventures" and pay them two ventures to go off for an hour, when they come back it'll count towards your challenge log if a few thousand gil really matters that much.

You're welcome.

Quick ventures only count for one of the 2 Retainer challenges, the second can only be completed with 18 hour ventures.

You're welcome..... for correcting you ^^