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  1. #11
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    What WOULD be nice, if you ask me, is if Levi HM, Ramuh HM, Gilgamesh, chimera, hydra, Cape westwind, and Shiva HM actually dropped something.
    Anything. Crafting materials, a minion, barding, a friggin SANDWICH.
    Just give us something to look forward to other than a paltry amount of tomes. Maybe have things with no loot table provide more Light for the nexus upgrade.
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  2. #12
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    At least Shiva/Ramuh/Leviathan rarely drop materials worth good money (No, really, Leviathan's barb sells for about 200k on my server last I checked). As mentioned, Gilgamesh and Cape Westwind have nothing.

    Labyrinth of the Ancients could be solved through the implementation of a Crystal Tower Roulette that prioritizes LotA if someone is attempting to queue for it.

    Trials issues will probably just get worse when Heavensward hits too.
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  3. #13
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    There are enough places to farm, and new players are being handled by roulette.
    No need to incentivate you do them, imho.
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  4. #14
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    There is only so much your FC can do to help other members to clear. When you are able to gather a healer, a tank, and a dps and still has to deal with over an hour wait, there is something clearly WRONG with the design. Remember people respond to INCENTIVE, big time!! There is a reason why everyone is spamming Syrcus Tower now, it is THE BEST reward to get any of your alt jobs for gears level 100 and items to take it to 110, on top of that, 50 soldiery and 15 poetic. 30 minutes run yields the most reward. It is not the best way to get poetic rewards, but surely the fastest way to gear any of your other jobs that are not your main with a base of level 100.

    Old outdated musty trials that are UNAVOIDABLE to progress need better rewards. IF Labyrinth of Ancients last boss drops 2 oils and 2 sand of time, people will do it a bit more, you may not get level 100 gears, but the 100 tomes are decent plus it drops items that can take your soldiery gears to 110. You can't try to get new players when the game is not helping them to clear contents they need to advance. Let's face it, people only do things if the rewards is worthwhile enough. Case point, The Hunt in 2.3 vs The Hunt in 2.4, simply changing the rewards, and you see a big drop in participation. It's still popular, but it is no longer THE BEST way to farm everything in one go.

    Trust me, if Cape Westwind give your 35 soldiery tome and 5 poetic reward, EVERYONE will spam the bejesus of this. The same goes to Battle on the Bridge, simply make it 35 soldiery tome and 8 poetic will draw more participation from players. Leviathan, Ramuh and Shivah hard mode, will be spammed to death if you add the same amount of poetic. Throw in 10 allied seals for completion, and any new players will never have any problem completing these "no drops" trials.

    Everyday I queue for four trials where "nobody will ever go" (hoping I will get a new person's bonus) and for Syrcus Tower on the Duty Roulette, you can easily guess which one pops the most, without fail, every single time.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 11-14-2014 at 06:32 PM.

  5. #15
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The same can be said to Duty Roulette adventure in need's bonus. Right now, its only a paltry gil and grand company seal, which nobody NEEDS badly. Unless we are talking about 20k gil bonus you can spam every single time. But if you slightly change the reward into 10 soldiery, 5 poetics, and 10 allied seal, plus money and grand company seal - and you can spam these indefinitely (pretty much making it slightly easier to farm tome as tank or healer) then you can bet the waiting time for any DPS will drops considerably. If you play DPS, you DO WANT tanks and healers get rewarded with some bonus, because this means you can do more dungeons as DPS and LESS WAITING. Everybody wins....
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  6. #16
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    Toodles Mcduff
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Better Light Reward would be nice.

    Also added them to the achieve for Bear/Lion Mounts.
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  7. #17
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Also - I don't understand why they don't flat out upgrade ALL the drops from outdated content. For example, you could exchange Ifrit Weapon Level 60 + 10k Grand Company Seal for a level 80 weapons, and upgrade it again for additional 20k GC Seal for level 90 weapons, and finally trade the Ifrit Weapon +2 with original level 60 weapon and 30k GC seal, for lvl 100 weapon. And make sure each has slightly different bonus, for example Ifrit weapon can have more STR overall on ALL his weapons for all jobs. Garuda can have more DEX or CRIT, Titan with VIT and Parry, etc.....

    This will make Grand Company seals more relevant, at the same time let casual players to have level 100 weapon that are quite decent to do most content in the game. As well as making old outdated content somewhat desirable. They should also upgrade those lvl 80-90 accessories from Primal Extreme and make it to be 110, it will still be inferior compared to the poetic gears, but it makes outdated content suddenly become semi relevant again.
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  8. #18
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Dear SE please do something about these story mode trial mission that everyone has to do to progress, but yet no one wants to do, especially the tanks, simply because there is ZERO benefits to do this other than once a day for your DF Roulette Trials..... It is extremely frustrating when you cannot progress because half of these so called trials are worthless, while the fews are being spammed to death because they drop something worthwhile.
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  9. #19
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    Yoongi Mio
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Not sure how many more incentives you need...

    All that content is useful for Light gathering for Nexus and CT right now is the highest soldiery count in one place.

    I've queued as a healer for ALL of these things either for my Nexus or just the need for soldiery and the wait time hasn't been anything more than the average 5-10 for trials and 20-30 at most for CT.

    Hell, when people go into CT and there's the new bonus, people are happy and rejoice.
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  10. #20
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    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    SE needs to up the rewards for old content and content that drops nothing. Add a mount, crafting mats, a minion and a decent number of the current tomes. I hit the trials, high lvl and some times the expert roulette for tomes but that is once a day. Other than that I am in snowcloak or ST. As a healer, I am burned out on St and am close to done with that for some time. I would rather be in CT but nothing needed comes from there to get a party going and I go solo as a healer in progress but it is rare that I ever get in. Would love to do more ex but they have become high end pony parties that I don't need, so there are few ex that I am current with passing. The i90 stuff needs to be bumped up or toss us more tomes. I hate to say it but there are two things I chase in this patch, crafting mats and tomes for crafting. If the roulettes would be more than once, keep decent tome levels or add crafting mats I would keep hitting them up.
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