Summoner needs a quick fix too

[Havenchild]

No, it really does not. The testing I did showed me that the damage difference between 270 det and 343 was literally 5-8 points off the minimum and maximum, and everyone claims Det is the end all be all for MNK due to auto attacks and the reduced delay between them. And that is merely BECAUSE DET is weighed in at 5.6-6 points of Det is equal to 1 STR, MND, INT or DEX. Main stats far outweigh secondaries.

Once again, not the same thing on SMN. Why do you think so many SMNs hate the current gear set? Because the class depends quite heavily on it's secondary stat spread (Crit/Det) whereas other classes tend to focus more on their main stat as the fore bearer of their damage. If it was as simple as max int, get good damage on SMN, no single SMN would complain about the gear set at all. What works for BLMs / MNKs /DRGs, does not translate to the same thing for SMNs.

[Eardstapa]

Again, you ignored my point I made, if secondaries are all you care for, just use crafted i110 and i90. See how you do against a SMN with full i130 in a few months... Now let us stop derailing this thread and agree to disagree, shall we?

[Havenchild]

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Kinda arguing semantics now. If you honestly feel that sacrificing heavy amounts of your main stat can ever be overcome by simple DET, then you would be pretty oblivious. Or in your case, your either sacrificed a lot of Crit or STR to gain that DET bonus so your parser didn't accurately reflect perhaps cause you weren't critting as often? I sure hope you were about 515 or so on Monk in i110 cause that's where all the good monks who gear correctly were. Your main stat matters, but how much of a secondary especially DET for summoners you can gain per main stat of INT is a big determining factor of what you do gear wise, which you fail to understand.

Where do you think people who have downed T13 and such already with ONLY i110 and i90 accesories, getting all there damage from to conquer the DPS checks? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't from STR since they couldn't meld that in. Secondary stats matter more then most people give credit to especially on this forum. But this generally separates the good players from the bad ones.

But since we've determined you know very little how summoners work, how about we agree to disagree, shall we?

[Eardstapa]

Well now you just took it a step too far. I know just how well secondaries work, but remember, we are on the 14 forums, so it is rare to see someone whom actually cares about secondaries... Considering everyone else shoots them down. Especially critical.

[Leonus]

Battle rez...

Can't you guys just call it raise? D:

Took me a bit to figure out battle rez.

[Ricdeau]

Battle rez...

Can't you guys just call it raise? D:

Took me a bit to figure out battle rez.

Just terminology carryover from many other games where the term resurrection is used in it's place.

[Brianmj]

Battle rez...

Can't you guys just call it raise? D:

Took me a bit to figure out battle rez.

It's to stick it to paladins that my be lurking in the dps forums, that even though they can raise, they can't raise during battle.

[jars]

once you have a fight down an extra 10 dps from weaving ruin 2 doesn't really matter either