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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoskai View Post
    Is it an actual DoT effect limit or is it a visible on the status bar thing limit?
    Both, Mobs will have 30 visible DoTs unless you change your settings, but you can still apply more and even if they are invisible using Fester will let you know that you have them applied. Mobs do have a hard cap of 60 DoT effects however and anything over that will not apply and fall off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I don't follow what you mean by a 'buff' class. Arcanist has all of one buff (Eye for an Eye) and the rest are debuff DoTs. The class with the most buffs is conjurer, but then that's part of their role as healer. Arcanist is a DD first and, at best, a half-arsed healer until they equip Scholar, and even then it's not as much of an improvement as it should be over White Mage, though that Galvanize buff is sublimely obscene. I don't think you understand how to fully use arcanist's varied talents.
    Once again i believe he meant to say DEBUFF class, as in he feels ACN needs more damage outside of just DoTs in the rare event that a mob hits the 60 DoT cap and no more are able to be applied, essentially at that point a Summoners damage drops considerably as they will only have pets and Ruin II
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    Kyoskai Darklaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    Both, Mobs will have 30 visible DoTs unless you change your settings, but you can still apply more and even if they are invisible using Fester will let you know that you have them applied. Mobs do have a hard cap of 60 DoT effects however and anything over that will not apply and fall off.
    That's the dumbest thing I've heard in the past 5 minutes! D:<

    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    I know this is off topic, but I would honestly love it if Arcanist. Scholarand Summoner all just became their own things. Arcanist would remain DoT focused DPS (Obviously compensate their stats gained from the job crystal), Scholar remains the same (Re-work the INT traits to MND ones), and then have Summoner be its own job like Dark Knight is and totally rework it. People who play Summoner now can go to Arcanist with no change, Summoner becomes its own thing, and Scholars have no change.
    Not gonna happen.
    Closest thing and what I secretly hope for is DRK not having any prerequisites means they'll nix the whole class system and every job will be all separate and whatnot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoskai View Post
    That's the dumbest thing I've heard in the past 5 minutes! D:<
    If you don't believe me you can go do an ST with 3 parties full of Summoners and Scholars and see what happens lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    If you don't believe me you can go do an ST with 3 parties full of Summoners and see what happens lol

    The limit is dumb, not what you said.
    It could be a thing, but I don't care enough to find out.
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    Once again i believe he meant to say DEBUFF class, as in he feels ACN needs more damage outside of just DoTs in the rare event that a mob hits the 60 DoT cap and no more are able to be applied, essentially at that point a Summoners damage drops considerably as they will only have pets and Ruin II
    I was saying if they did revamp the class, but they revamped it in a dumb way where your pet does all of the hard work and you sit in the back buffing party members. That was just me throwing spitting out bad ideas, because I really don't know what a real summon class is. Is it just a class where you summon a beast and it does all of the work or what? FF14 hasn't really shown me what a real pet class is. If they did change the class into something else how would they go about it?
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    Last edited by Bigcat9715; 11-14-2014 at 02:35 PM.