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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70

    SCH/SMN to have their own attributes points

    This probably has been asked many times but I think is a terrible idea to have to split attribute points between these 2 classes. I can understand that the keepers hymn is real cheap (250 seals rather than 10k) but we shouldn't be using this everytine we want to swap classes. This doesn't happen with any other class ( MRD/WAR THM/BLM and so on)

    I think is time for these 2 classes to be their own. No more 15/15 or distributing points that are totally worthless for each.
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    Fated Erskine
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    While it's stupid the way it currently is, it's not as big of a problem anymore.
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    It might be the trade off for leveling two jobs at once. :/ What would they do, separate exp? Or at level up, ask whether you want to level SCH or SMN?
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    Altimis Vaara
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    Raiden
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    Monk Lv 90
    Using the item to switch points is inconvenient, but at the same time you have got an additional job to 50 for "free". This is the price you pay.
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Didn't they say they would fix this with the expansion? (this was before the fanfest IIRC)
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 63
    Put everything into INT. I've recently put all points into INT and I notice nothing major with my SCH. I still am able to heal just fine. I tried tossing it around and notice very little difference but I don't use any programs to judge what I heal for I just know if I can get through content and do my job right..I'm good. There's nothing to really..fix. It was just how it was meant to be. Maybe they'll change it for expansion who knows..if they do expect to hear how hard getting to 60 is with Summoner when you don't got SCH to piggy back on..but then again can't please everyone..someone somewhere is going to complain.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 11-13-2014 at 10:47 PM.

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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    It's like this because at this point, Arcanist is the only class you can level and get both a DPS and a Healer role in just a single grind. It has already been said that this will go away once more classes branch into other jobs, diminishing the clear advantage Arcansist has at this point over every other class. In the meantime, those who plan on using both Summoner and Scholar should go ahead and use all attribute points on INT. The 30 points you'll loose from Mind is about 100 HP for every Physick and it really doesn't make a difference in any fight at this moment. In fact, many of the healers that push progression on new endgame instances use VIT.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Personally speaking, when it comes to SCH I'm already so frustrated at how weak its heal potential seem to be compared to WHM's that I would be loathe to give up even a mere 100 on Physick :<

    But yeah, Keeper's Hymns are dirt cheap now. If you really like playing SMN and SCH a lot, you may wanna keep a stack of them around.

    My guess is that you will only have to put up with this until 3.0 comes out, at which point jobs that apparently have no base class will start coming out, meaning the whole extra stat allocation system will probably receive a reworking and I'm betting that will be the point SMN and SCH will have its separate points.
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    Lucius Magnus
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Personally speaking, when it comes to SCH I'm already so frustrated at how weak its heal potential seem to be compared to WHM's that I would be loathe to give up even a mere 100 on Physick :<

    But yeah, Keeper's Hymns are dirt cheap now. If you really like playing SMN and SCH a lot, you may wanna keep a stack of them around.

    My guess is that you will only have to put up with this until 3.0 comes out, at which point jobs that apparently have no base class will start coming out, meaning the whole extra stat allocation system will probably receive a reworking and I'm betting that will be the point SMN and SCH will have its separate points.
    If you think SCH has weak heals then you don't understand the job or how it works. Mitigation is the SCH's domain. If it's heals were as powerful as a WHM then it'd be very imbalanced when combined with it's mitigation abilities.
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    They had said in a live-letter or at one of the fan-fests that they're looking at a solution for this. It'll come.
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