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  1. #21
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Yeah, and that's not the strongest heal WHM has. It is for SCH unless you count Lustrates. What's your point?

    Not even going to get into what a chore it is to try healing an entire group after a big hit just with Succor and Eos's regenga that provides no immediate healing; I think that kinda speaks for itself.
    Not to gang up on you, but SCH's single target healing potential with just Physick and Embrace (not even using Rouse) exceeds that of WHM and is indefinitely sustainable under normal circumstances. A WHM would need to spam Cure II to compete with that output, and that isn't practical at all.

    WHM is and always should be superior at AoE HP restoration.

    SCH is there to blunt incoming AoE damage, and besides; there are few situations in the game where parties eat unavoidable, large AoE damage back-to-back without the opportunity to heal up.

    Don't limit yourself by thinking that SCH is weak. You're just trying to make it fit into a WHM style, and it doesn't.
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  2. #22
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    Shadex's Avatar
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    Shadex De'marr
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 62
    Don't worry about it too much. In time Yoshi will finally manage to gut the last remaining vestiges of actual Final Fantasy from the game and we won't have to deal with stuff like this anymore.
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  3. #23
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    They had said in a live-letter or at one of the fan-fests that they're looking at a solution for this. It'll come.
    I must of missed this thanks . it's becoming frustrating to be resetting points every time I wanna join a raid or do a dungeon . No many take a dps sch
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  4. #24
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I must of missed this thanks . it's becoming frustrating to be resetting points every time I wanna join a raid or do a dungeon . No many take a dps sch
    They would never notice that you're a 30-INT SCH unless you told them that you're a 30-INT SCH. Hell, there are so many mediocre SMN out there that they might not notice if you're a 30-MIND SMN either. >__> I did 30 INT on my SCH though, and have SCH healed everything up to T10 without issue.
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  5. #25
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Personally speaking, when it comes to SCH I'm already so frustrated at how weak its heal potential seem to be compared to WHM's that I would be loathe to give up even a mere 100 on Physick :<
    Scholar does not have weak heal potential. Straight up comparing the base heal amounts for the two of them and not taking anything else into account is a huge mistake. I'm definitely more willing to take a SCH for a solo heal run than a WHM because of the damage mitigation, the burst heal potential of lustrate, and the assistance of the pet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Don't limit yourself by thinking that SCH is weak. You're just trying to make it fit into a WHM style, and it doesn't.
    This, exactly. Personally, I love the SCH playstyle; the proactive damage prevention is fun to me. ^^
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  6. #26
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    They would never notice that you're a 30-INT SCH unless you told them that you're a 30-INT SCH. Hell, there are so many mediocre SMN out there that they might not notice if you're a 30-MIND SMN either. >__> I did 30 INT on my SCH though, and have SCH healed everything up to T10 without issue.
    The Summoner has an inherent design flaw that's why there are alot of mediocore Summoner's. With Summoner players can get their rotation just right but if players don't use intelligent and poisoning potions the dps hit is noticeable. The Arcanist is built for the Scholar so naturally a few stat points won't hurt it while the Summoner will notice the affect of missing 30 int right away.
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    Last edited by Akiza; 11-14-2014 at 03:05 AM.

  7. #27
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    The Summoner has an inherent design flaw that's why there are alot of mediocore Summoner's. With Summoner players can get their rotation just right but if players don't use intelligent and poisoning potions the dps hit is noticeable. The Arcanist is built for the Scholar so naturally a few stat points won't hurt it while the Summoner will notice the affect of missing 30 int right away.
    you not liking how it works isnt a design flaw. smns being top or second dps when played good in current fights begs to differ on what you think.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 11-14-2014 at 05:11 AM.

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