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  1. #61
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    Noxifer's Avatar
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    C'alih Tia
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Blossoming View Post
    Thing is though I didn't use any type of tone with him. In fact I never do with anyone as I am pretty laid back and totally okay with a dungeon being rough if people are new even if I have run it 100 times. That's the only person I've ever had get aggravated at me for giving any advice for as long as I've played(1.0 beta). If your going to ask for important boss mechanics I'm going to tell you every mechanic so that way there is no "Oh I didn't know" or me going "woops I should of remembered to tell you xxx." Have to make sure the whm/sch doesn't have a more difficult job as it is.
    Oh, I know =D But that's sort of what I was trying to get at. Since text-based conversation is very tricky to interpret at times, due to lack of tone of voice or body language, it's easy to imagine a negative/dismissive tone unless the opposite is very obvious (which it rarely gets to be due to time constraints in typing things before people get impatient and run off anyway). Especially if you've run into people being openly rude or condescending before. And once you start imagining it, it's even more difficult to change your interpretation filter.

    And I'm not trying to put any responsibility on you for it, not at all; he did ask for tactics and types of attacks to be aware of (like directional AoEs) is part of that. But there might be mitigating circumstances as to why the tank took it the way he did, and I know from personal experience that it sometimes can be very tricky to know what intention/attitude lies behind those words in your chat window (or forum posts, for that matter :3). So I was just trying to keep an open mind about him instead of instantly going all "what an idiot" or something ^^
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  2. #62
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    Ran_Aetherwolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Ran Aetherwolf
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I'm not the greatest when it comes to explaining things, however when it comes to new players I try to help them best I can. I figure we were all new at some point and had to learn. I't may not be much but offering advice and pointers should at least give them something positive to think about. Its more productive than being an elitist, toxic, or down right impatient person.
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  3. #63
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    Gridania
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    If you're in a dungeon with a party depending on you it's already too late to learn your role. That's what guides are for. You're supposed to learn your role before you get everyone killed 20 times, not after. I'm more than happy to explain boss mechanics and such to people, but that's very different from explaining how their own class works to them.
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  4. #64
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    Dalex's Avatar
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    Gridania!
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    Character
    Alexandria Chevalier
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I'm guilty of getting frustrated with people and becoming snippy/passive-aggressive, but...sometimes I think it's justified to be a little mad. When a lvl 50 paladin with multiple lvl 50 classes doesn't understand the basics of his class, (i.e. flash increases enmity, don't use sprint just before pulling the next group), he should really take the time to master it in lower level dungeons before stepping into anything past Brayflox. FATE leveling a class to 50 really doesn't cut it if you're missing out on party and dungeon mechanics in between.
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