DRK: What if for HP you get-

[Martin_Arcainess]

Hi all \o

Right I've seen the Odd one or 2 Thread posts about, well mainly "How can a Tank Class sacrifice his HP" etc etc,

But what if they do make it like that but we get something in return? So for example.


Omen Shield "Sacrifice 10% HP for 15% Damage reduction" Can stack up to 3 Times for a 45% Damage Reduction.

Blood Gain "Sacrifice 40% HP for 50% increase in healing received"

Arcane Drain "Inflicts Arcane Drain on self, which Increase Max HP by 35% but drains HP over time"

Convert "Converts MP into HP"

Soul Reap "Inflicts Soul Reap on 1 enemy, if effect is still active when enemy dies recover HP by 10% x remaining time on effect and MP by 30% x remaining time on effect"

But don't take these skills too seriously they more like a what the DRK could have in terms of HP cost attacks. So it's more like yes he will lost HP but he's harder to kill in return.

[SpookyGhost]

Yeah, my boyfriend was actually telling me about this and I thought it was a really interesting and good idea. I hope it's a balanced risk reward and isn't gimped like 2.0 WAR's self healing gimmick, though. IMO it should be sacrifice X% HP but have it work like Pox where it lowers your current HP entirely, and then everything you add on from there is a % of your new #.

So, if you have say 1000 HP as a DRK and you use Omen Shield, you bring yourself down to 900 HP. Using Blood Gain would bring you down to 360.

Obviously this doesn't work so great with the abilities you listed, but I think simply sacrificing HP that is easily healable might result in abilities being quite OP. I do like the idea of sacrificing HP for mitigation or special effects, though.

[Darkstride]

Perhaps the ability to sacrifice health as a substitute for TP if you run out.

They can also still have their signature Darkness move, but as a high-hate AoE blast.

[Warlyx]

then drk will be useless as MT for lots of content , see T5/t9 as prime examples

i dont think drk will sacrifice hp , but drain it , the less hp the more u drain. and mitigate using magic shields (stoneskin / see DK mastery in wow) and dark magic spells

[Synestr]

Don't forget about souleater, classic signature skill. Sacrifice HP for DMG to target, all target. Maybe that will be DRK's AoE threat generator. As a tank, I think it would need a high HP base if will sacrifice HP for moves, but that would seem a bit imbalanced and my PLD would cry. He likes high HP and is jealous of my WAR...

All we can do is speculate and wait till they release confirmed information.

[Darkstride]

Don't forget about souleater, classic signature skill. Sacrifice HP for DMG to target, all target. Maybe that will be DRK's AoE threat generator. As a tank, I think it would need a high HP base if will sacrifice HP for moves, but that would seem a bit imbalanced and my PLD would cry. He likes high HP and is jealous of my WAR...

All we can do is speculate and wait till they release confirmed information.

I'm pretty sure Souleater is only in XI. The classic signature skill for Dark Knight is Darkness. Same concept but if you want "classic".....

[Synestr]

FFIII had Souleater as the "ability" the job used. Consumed HP to perform medium to high DMG to all targets.

Also, from FFWIKIA: The Dark Knight is characterized by wearing tight, sometimes enclosed black armor and wielding a sword steeped in wicked powers. Their physical stats, with exception of Defense, are usually high, but their other stats depend on the game they appear in. The typical Dark Knight ability is Souleater, also known as Darkness, which allows them to sacrifice their HP to perform stronger attacks.

Also there is stated that the job was there from FFII, FFIII, FFIV, X-2 etc, of which darkness or souleater were used.

So unfortunately it was not an XI exclusive.

[Darkstride]

Souleater was introduced to FFIII in the re-release on DS, which came after FFXI. I don't believe Souleater existed prior to XI. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Darkness was the original version of the ability.

I don't think quoting wiki is always a definitive answer.

[Martin_Arcainess]

then drk will be useless as MT for lots of content , see T5/t9 as prime examples

i dont think drk will sacrifice hp , but drain it , the less hp the more u drain. and mitigate using magic shields (stoneskin / see DK mastery in wow) and dark magic spells

And your basing this onnnnn? This is all speculations and no confirmed talk so you can't really say it will be useless if you got nothing to go on.


@Spookyghoust Cheers ^_^ it would be cool if they went along something like this but either way if DRK plays good he'll be my new main.

Also can we try to keep this about a what if HP thing for DRK please? Don't want us going off rail like other DRK threads

[Yumi_umi]

If drk got those kind of skills.
I think it'd just be a spam fest before pulls and before big hits.
I.e drk facerolls every possible CD -> gets whm to burst heal and cast regen.
All those buffs at near max hp = war on steroids.