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    Alenore's Avatar
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    Alenore Llohen
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    Why does everyone assume Zodiark can be summoned, when it's probably a being similar to Hydaelyn and is pretty much the source of aether itself.
    If their goal was to summon a special being such as Zodiark (if he's not a crystal), there's faster way to do it (like possessing the different religious leaders to alter the cults, leading to a worship of Zodiark).

    The only point in becoming Shiva, for Iceheart, was retaining her will and having the power of a primal. Do you actually think they'd want to give the power of their "One True God" to their sworn opponent, to make them a being able to feed from Aether, and thus giving them the power to actually kill them (just like what Leviathan did to the Sahagin priest).


    As for summoning primals, "easy" to think of workarounds.
    - Capture the essence of the primal in an auracite (similar to how you'd trap a soul in it),
    - Bring an auracite (or a lot), slowly fill it/them over time until there's enough aether to sustain a primal for a certain amount of time.
    - Use both the essence you captured along with the aether auracite
    - When the aether is depleted, the primal's essence disappear since no more to feed on.
    - ???
    - profit.
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    Iceheart isn't in control of Shiva once she completed the summoning, it's Shiva talking, not Ysayle. As for Zodiark we don't know exactly why they can't summon him directly, we don't know if he is the dark crystal ( as he is the zodiac symbol of the serpent and made a previous appearance in the Ivalice games ) or just a very powerful Primal. Truth is that we don't know anything about Zodiark or the Ascians. Maybe it's because Hydaelyn trapped Zodiark or locked him away, it seems that they try to weaken Hydaelyn, by telling to the beastmen to summon their primals ( and even other people, like the little Ala Migho guys that tried to summon Rhalgr ) and sucking the aether out of the planet. At this point we can merely speculate.
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Iceheart isn't in control of Shiva once she completed the summoning, it's Shiva talking, not Ysayle.
    The Scions speculate that Iceheart may (or may have not) have been in control of Shiva once the latter was summoned.

    Personally, I agree with Urianger's assessment in that Iceheart may have simply been "groomed for the role" (and as such, rather than being simply taken over by Shiva, both their minds/souls worked in unison, given they had the exact same ideals, morality, etc.).
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 11-17-2014 at 02:37 AM.