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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    So... tell me again how Dark Knight is supposed to be a tank.
    A Tank is one defined as holding the attention of hostile targets so the squishier Party Members can do their job.
    The PLD Tanks with a Shield to mitigate damage.
    The WAR tanks with his face and uses his anger to shrug off/ignore damage (Thats how i imagine Inner Beast XD)
    The DRK could well utilize his sheer destructive force to terrorize his targets into dealing less damage. I could well imagine a DRK Sacrificing 10% his HP to fuel a spell which caused affected targets to deal 30% less damage to the DRK. Theres ways and means to make it work.
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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    snips
    can we stop this? can we stop to compare solo game to mmorpg game?
    anyway, a dark knight is scary presence that no one can ignore, that the point of why it's a tank! it will have probably spell and skill that will cripples the enemy or scare them. it can even be a evasive tank with a sort of dark mantle, shrouding him in darkness and making him harder to hit.

    and another point, a dps that will sacrify him hp for deal more damage will be a pain for the healer and most raid will simply say: "no thanks sir!" even if it's the best dps of the game! because if you are a dps, you can't really stand a hit... then reduce hp for deal more damage can be a bit.... a trouble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    I'm still reeling with bemusement that they turned Dark Knight, a major DPS job from every single FF game ever...
    sorry but only this part did make me laughs, Dark knight had a nice hitting capacity, but it was far to be the monster you try to tell us... *sighs* many jobs was simply doing better in older game and we don't talk of FF11.

    about the SAM as DPS it's logical! god, a samurai spend him whole life with only one goal... kill him enemy!
    but still i can't understand them reason for not add it, with the add of the ninja it was logical to bring the samurai behind, Doma must be the place where the two jobs was coming from. and with more and more refugies coming. it was easy to simply say that some swordmaster from the east have arrive and want to teach them way to face an enemy for revenge him family or lord or whatever he want to advenge....

    same the fact that another japanese jobs was added before don't hold... samurai and ninja are the only two jobs japanese. you can check no other jobs oriented japanese in the FF series.
    i simply hope people will be louds enough for make them change them mind and add it!

    but something bother me...why soken did hint the samurai? if it was not planned to add it? i means it was teased while the las vegas fan fest i doubt they have change them mind between las vegas and london! something fishy about all of this.

    ps: actually it's why make a music for a jobs they don't plan to release! it's times, energy and money spend on something that will never be used.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 11-13-2014 at 08:00 AM.

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    Doctor Pepper
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    Such happiness. As long as they stick to their guns on this I am very excited since I've been worried about SAM becoming a tank ever since DRK was announced as one. So far my favorite dps jobs in XI (War/Drk/Sam) both ended up being tanks and it was very disappointing to me so I'm happy to see that Sam might end up as a DPS job
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    Loki Ragnarok
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    I'm glad SAM is going to be a DD/dps job I always fancied samurai's but if they are waiting to release it in some future patch after 3.0 will we see another DD/dps job that's in 3.0, or is SE just going to have dark knight and the new healer job and that's it for the expansion. Looks like i'll still be subbing till I hear what all SE plans on adding in the expansion.
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    Sooo ummm if sam is going to be dps and drkn a tank. What's the healer gonna get?
    Its gonna be like a dozen dps and half a dozen tanks before healer gets some new shiny stuff.
    Sad healer life but great que life lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Sooo ummm if sam is going to be dps and drkn a tank. What's the healer gonna get?
    Its gonna be like a dozen dps and half a dozen tanks before healer gets some new shiny stuff.
    Sad healer life but great que life lol
    SAM isn't in the upcoming expansion, probably like 4.0. Or 3.4 if we go with "every X.4 releases a new classic Japanese style class!"
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    I'm expecting Samurai to come out when the game heads east to Doma, Radz-at-Han, Ala Mhigo, etc.

    If not for DRK being a tank job, I absolutely would have figured Templar would be a Tank job.
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    Rumina Asou
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    this is why i hate premature claims. "feels more like a dps"
    forums: SAM IS A DPS CONFIRMED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    this is why i hate premature claims. "feels more like a dps"
    forums: SAM IS A DPS CONFIRMED.
    Yeah it feels like that Half Life 3 joke, only even more run into the ground
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