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    Deep vigor usage

    Tooltip says it can be used only after chain 4. When does this skill actually become useful? I only ever get a max 4 attempts, am I missing something? lol
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    You have never gotten nodes that state "Strength > = +1 gathering attempt" ? You have to meet those requirements and can get the extra attempt, but it is not on every node.

    Strength just an example, would apply to whatever stat for the class you on
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    For 300 GP, you can use Solid Reason, which grants an additional Gather attempt at a node. Combined with a node that gives +1 gathering attempts (as Levis mentioned), that brings you up to a total of six, allowing you that guaranteed HQ.

    It's usually more useful to gather for quantity rather than quality, but there are several occasions when HQ is absolutely required, such as gathering for class quests or gathering HQ Umbral Ore for your Forager's Dolabra later on.

    And speaking of HQ Umbral Ore, at endgame Miner you mine at Unspoiled Nodes. These nodes can be mined only once per hour - but to make up for that a bit, you can mine at them six times instead of four. That's another case where Deep Vigor can come into play.

    Also, when doing Mining Leves, every node allows for six swings. If you manage to hit the first five times, it's nice to be able to guarantee the sixth (though, of course, nothing you can get in a leve has a HQ version, so you're just doing it to guarantee the gather).

    Deep Vigor has its place, but you won't be using it all the time.
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    I understand. Ty guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuel81 View Post
    Tooltip says it can be used only after chain 4. When does this skill actually become useful? I only ever get a max 4 attempts, am I missing something? lol
    All unspoiled nodes start with 6 swings possible (well all the pre 2.4 ones can't speak for the newest) So its useful then through most of the time I'm going for quantity so I end up saving my GP and only doing 5 swings (at +2) (swing to reveal > +2 (500 gp) > +5% (50gp) swing x5).

    The Deep vigor is very useful to get at least 1 HQ when going for the i70 tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonko View Post
    All unspoiled nodes start with 6 swings possible (well all the pre 2.4 ones can't speak for the newest) So its useful then through most of the time I'm going for quantity so I end up saving my GP and only doing 5 swings (at +2) (swing to reveal > +2 (500 gp) > +5% (50gp) swing x5).

    The Deep vigor is very useful to get at least 1 HQ when going for the i70 tools.
    yes this, i wouldnt worry about it until you are gathering at unspoiled nodes.. revealing at the start will mean that your final hit will absolutely be HQ, although there are better ways to get HQ out of unspoiled nodes
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