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    Player
    Matter's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Matter Kun
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50

    Tips on Quick Mudra Inputs!

    Hello! I seem to deal great damage on my rotation, but I look at other peoples' on videos and see that they cast Mudras way faster than me... I literally have no idea why. I'm using a keyboard and my keybinds for the mudras are my alt + 1 , alt +2 and alt + 3 buttons and my execution is on one of my 2 extra mouse buttons. I'm not sure what I am doing to cast so slow. I heard that latency was one thing, I heard computer performance was another, and I also think that my keybinds might be slowing it down too. Sometimes it goes super fast for all of them randomly, sometimes only two go off fast, and most of the time they go off so slowly it feels like I'm using a macro. Please give me tips! Thank you!
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    WinterSolstice's Avatar
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    Winter Solstice
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    My Mudra cast times differ greatly depending on where I am, and the time of day. It's odd.
    If I'm at my personal house, I can cast them lightning fast. However at peak times in Coil or something...not so much. It's very disconcerting to have them change all the time.

    I don't think there are many tips to give, sadly. I would really like this to be changed however. It seems so...finicky.

    For keybinds, I have mine set to Q, E, R, and activated with F. Works great for me.
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    Renik's Avatar
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    Ren'li Heise
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    It's a mix of it being locked to a shared CD and lag, connection and graphical, i failed some mudras because of one reason or another, the game fails to receive the pulsation because of lag and gets the next one, and if you slow down you're basically reducing your damage, but at least you'll cast it.
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Yes mudras are very dependent of the lag, same as combo does some times but since it's a 0.5 CD it can be annoying while the other skills usually have a 2.5 sec CD.
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    if it takes you 2 sec to send/receive a packet to/from server, then it will take you 2sec to be able to cast the next mudra, instead of 0,5sec.
    there's not much you can do about it, except use Battleping or WTFas...i don't really know SEs opinion about such programs...but it's stupid that you'd need to pay for extra services, just to be able to play the game, as it should be played.
    Why can't SE set up such a network?
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    Shneibel's Avatar
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    imo, it is best to do mudras slow & sure than fail it. My self, yesterday i had experience different cast time of mudra, it sudden slower and then it sudden faster & smooth...and I have to stop for a sec to check where I am at before continues, so I would not recommend do quick mudra
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    Kisshu's Avatar
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Playing on PS4 and I have mudra delays often, so much that even Raiton is difficult to use within one GCD and Suiton/Huton impossible. I've also had missed mudras even when they loaded meaning failed ninjutsu and from using the ninjutsu reset I got at least 1 sec delay on it.
    For a job that need to exploit every bit of cooldown it's really annoying with these delays/lag
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    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Makes me wonder if this is the reason why normal skills have a 2.5s gcd or if this is related to "instant" skills not being actually instant.
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    I'm gonna go with the sad but realistic advice: wtfast
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    Razu Erisu
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    It sounds like latency. Just like gathering: If you gather in the same spot as another player, you'll notice you both have a different pace (people are gathering faster than me even when I spam 0 non stop.). The one with good latency will have more hits done during X time.
    But it's really like anything else in this game, or online games I guess, if you have better latency you basically have an easier gameplay than someone who doesn't

    Skills are client sided, the server realizes you cast a skill much after it started. (and you'll notice that during a lag spike, as long as your skill is not blank, you can cast ti and see the whole animation, but the numbers on your target won't appear until after the lag).

    So Mudras should work the same, which means that after hitting your mudra, although you see the animation, it still didn't register to the server, and therefore people with bad latency will take longer to combo, not only Mudra, but any instant skills (and non instant ones as well).
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    Last edited by Razzle; 11-12-2014 at 10:44 PM.

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