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    Player
    zar's Avatar
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    Vahn Vana'diel
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cedane View Post
    Yes, some could make a rank to ensure they do not take from the chest, yada yada. But that fact does kind of remain. There are people actively going into FCs, working their way up rank or even right away if the FC rank lets them access right away--they go in, take all the gil and belongings in the guild chest and then leave.
    So what do you want SE to do? Flick a wand and magically make all the bad people go away? Your solution works fine.
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    Cedane's Avatar
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    Aymeigh Lewanda
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by zar View Post
    So what do you want SE to do? Flick a wand and magically make all the bad people go away? Your solution works fine.
    I want SE to acknowledge the problem and actually, you know, punish the thieves when it goes reported. Suspensions, bans, just... anything. Saying who the thieves are isn't enough. They should be discouraged from doing it and the stuff stolen should be returned. Thats what I think should happen.

    Because right now? There isn't. It could happen and its literally punishing the victim. That is all this is. Punishing the victim. The indifference to the problem is pretty bad, and its happening right now.

    No, the FC I'm in never had this problem but I can imagine how everyone else would feel or how horrible they feel when something like this happens and everyone blames the victim, not the criminal.
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    Last edited by Cedane; 11-12-2014 at 05:27 AM.

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    MythToken's Avatar
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cedane View Post
    I want SE to acknowledge the problem and actually, you know, punish the thieves when it goes reported. Suspensions, bans, just... anything. Saying who the thieves are isn't enough. They should be discouraged from doing it and the stuff stolen should be returned. Thats what I think should happen.
    Whats to stop someone from lying about that occuring? I could invite you to my FC say please take 20k gil all new members get that. Then kick you and tell SE that you stole the money. SE is not a criminal justice system its a game. There can't be blanket trials and accusations about things that happen with in game currency. Thats ridiculous. Stop putting money in your FC chest until you need to raise it for something. Theres nothing even to buy.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    What most people off of Balmung don't realize is there is a few individuals active on our server that are joining multiple FCs and stealing what they can from their chests and then moving onto another. All of my linkshell's and even my FC was hit by this individual(s). Just report the user and move on. They will punish the user if enough evidence and reports are provided
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    Marisela's Avatar
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    Thasha Kathea
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    That's why you have all the setting at your hand to allow which rank can access each slot tier or none at all.

    Simple solutions is just don't rank them up unless they are active and been join for a long period of times. You can also do something like this...

    1 weeks - Access to Tier 1
    2 weeks - Access to Tier 2
    3 Weeks - Access to Tier 3
    One Month - Two Month - Access to Tier 4

    Don't put anything valuable in Slot 1 - 3. Only Valuable at Slot 4. And don't let them access gil and crystals of course. This ways they can't jump from one FC to another to do the same to other FC.

    Then if you know them really well, can let them take Crystal or Gils. But only recommend if you know that person really well or real friends. SE don't really need to fixed anything. As a players you have all the necessary tools to do this already. SE not there to babysit. People who get in invite and let them access all Chest is beyond me, and you are just asking for it. It like you're asking them to take advantage of you.
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    Last edited by Marisela; 11-12-2014 at 07:53 PM.

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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    He's talking about the Lodestone ID. That never changes. In any case, while I do agree the devs could make some adjustments to the permissions so you can set levels of Promotion permission, at the moment there's not much they can do to police the problem since it's very difficult to separate legit transactions from the thefts.
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    He's talking about the Lodestone ID. That never changes. In any case, while I do agree the devs could make some adjustments to the permissions so you can set levels of Promotion permission, at the moment there's not much they can do to police the problem since it's very difficult to separate legit transactions from the thefts.
    I see. Now that makes sense. The Lodestone ID wouldn't change, though you would need to become a little stalker-ish and follow the offending character.

    Though I do agree that the ability to promote someone to a rank above your own does seem like a bit of an oversight that needs to be remedied.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    It's not stealing if you give them access to it.

    There are ways to set levels.
    My wife and I just joined a new FC and we asked if they had a rank to set us too until we found out if we where a good fit or not. It seems to be working out well, But I'm not going to ask for access if they feel I need or should have access I will take it.


    The other option is to micro manage and let everyone see everything but need to ask if they want something.
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    Promyvion Vahzl
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 64
    What's worse than "thieves" raiding FC chests is the amount of people not cut out to be a FC leader, but do it anyway.
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    What's worse than "thieves" raiding FC chests is the amount of people not cut out to be a FC leader, but do it anyway.
    There is no true definition of what a leader ought to be.
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