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    Player
    Rhas's Avatar
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    Rhas Itiron
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cedane View Post
    Before Name Change, Fix FC Bank Thieves First!
    First off, it is not SE's problem if the people who made/run the FC are too lazy to set up ranks with different permissions. No access, view access, deposit access and all access.

    Just give the "main members" access to deposit gil only with the admins you trust full access. You can give each chest tab different permissions as well. For example, Make one or two tabs have full access with the last tab (or two) with view access only. If your members see something they can use in the second or third tab, it can me moved to the first tab (or two) by people who have been given access.

    I fail to see why you think SE should be responsible for a private FC's actions. Especially if you let them have access in the first place. Just because your FC doesn't want to take a little time for your own security that is built in just boggles my mind. The tools are already there.
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    Yandeguire Kurumi
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    Lich
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    Lancer Lv 60
    This is a simple solution for dumb OP.

    1. Lock Chest 2 and 3 for the highest Ranking Member, Chest 1 for the lowest.
    2. Only put the highest Valuable items in Chest 3. Chest 1 for JUNKS and 2 for Medium Value.
    3. Thieves are nice to clean the JUNK off Chest 1 that gives headache so I don't mind and give a fk.
    4. Again like 1. GOD DAMN LEARN TO LOCK FC CHEST BY RANKS!!!!
    5. Only FC Leader is allowed for Gil Withdrawn.
    6. Shards/Crystal/Cluster, LOCK for Highest Rank only! or Medium and High Rank.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    permission was given, it cannot be theft, the one that gave the permission is the guilty one. nobody else. When you do what you are allowed to do is not theft, morally is disputable but the mistake is on you, not on them...the solution simply is do not give access to the safe otehr then deposit stuff....if peopel want to withdraw they send a message to the leader and leader decides...

    Why scream over this when is not their fault, morally it is, but moral has not the same meaning in everyone's mouth.

    Mei
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    Kaeda Valentyne
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 47
    I think the only thing you could do as an FC leader now who wants to leave chest access mostly open is to have a "contract" in place. For example have all new people come in at a rank with no access what so ever and have them in a tell agree that they are not allowed to clear out the chest and leave. If they do so and you keep a screenshot of the tell you can report them for breach of agreement.
    SE already enforces these agreements for gil loans of if you ask someone to make an item for you and you give them the mats. I don't see why this would be any different.
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    A simple solution would be adding also limits on how much you can take from a chest in a day - be it gil, shards, items... Idealy per slot limits would be best but even per row or column could work. Better yet... let us handle how many chest pages we have based off of the amount of slots we can have and be able to limit that way.
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    Yuki Izumi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    They are not thieves, if they were given rights to access it in the first place.
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    So stop promoting people you don't trust and leaving tabs open to just anybody...?
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    There is only two obvious approaches to this problem and the most obvious and one that applies common sense in do not put certain FC chest privileges to people you do not trust. The second being a limitation on the amount any specific rank can take out of the FC chest but you would still be left with your own judgement if you give someone access to a rank higher than they deserve which would allow them to take out things you do not want people taking out.

    Just use common sense and stop giving people access to ranks with privileges they might abuse unless your willing to risk losing stuff that you should of known better than to give access to. Report people who abuse this to SE since they have access to a characters name history I believe providing they are competent in their system development so even if you report someone who has since changed their names SE would still be able to locate them, then cross your fingers when something bad happens in that SE would punish them but it is very unlikely SE will take action.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 11-12-2014 at 11:46 PM.

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