Before Name Change, Fix FC Bank Thieves First!

[Cedane]

The title implies and some friends made a very good point on this. Yes, some could make a rank to ensure they do not take from the chest, yada yada. But that fact does kind of remain. There are people actively going into FCs, working their way up rank or even right away if the FC rank lets them access right away--they go in, take all the gil and belongings in the guild chest and then leave.

Even if invited in, its still an act of thievery. SE hasn't done anything so people were left to let people know behind the scenes. Now with this name feature, they can easily change their name and continue to take advantage of the system.

I don't mind name changes. I like name changes. Sometimes, using Fantasia makes the current name your using obsolete. I get that... but if your going to sneak in a feature, you'd better fix this first! If someone comes into a Free Company with the intent to steal from everyone's hard work, whether they work up the rank to do it or join immediately, it doesn't matter. Its theft and SE, you got to do something about it before putting this feature in! Theft is theft, no matter what that Free Company did.

You gave them a tool to use to abuse it, and now its time to speak up and, hopefully, SE does something about it. Its a real issue and this name change only empowers those people to continue doing it.

[MaethusXion]

Too late, Namingway is here.

[Rutteger]

So, what is your suggestion to "fix" the fact that people of a certain rank have the ability to remove Gil from an FC chest? I would genuinely like to hear what you think they can do to prevent this sort of thing happening in game.

[Titor]

You cannot steal something given to you.

Also, the character ID number is the same. If you really are concerned about people taking things out of the FC chest, write down the ID numbers of these problematic people and check it every so often. Eventually if they change a name it can circulate around so people know who to run out for.

Or do not put extremely expensive items in a FC chest that is accessed by members you do not know very well.

Screen better, limit better. What would you propose SE do? They cannot have a "take items back from member" function, that would be silly.

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

You cannot steal something given to you.

Also, the character ID number is the same. If you really are concerned about people taking things out of the FC chest, write down the ID numbers of these problematic people and check it every so often. Eventually if they change a name it can circulate around so people know who to run out for.

Or do not put extremely expensive items in a FC chest that is accessed by members you do not know very well.

Screen better, limit better. What would you propose SE do? They cannot have a "take items back from member" function, that would be silly.

That's like saying if you have a gym membership you can take the equipment home, cancel your membership and its not stealing. How well do you think that would go over? It's people like this who do the whole victim blaming that allow this to continue.

The least SE could do is fix the promotion issue that allows someone to promote another person above their own rank. This is continually used to steal things from FCs when ranks are put in place. A lot of people don't even know that it is possible for this to happen.

[Titor]

That's like saying if you have a gym membership you can take the equipment home, cancel your membership and its not stealing. How well do you think that would go over? It's people like this who do the whole victim blaming that allow this to continue.

The least SE could do is fix the promotion issue that allows someone to promote another person above their own rank. This is continually used to steal things from FCs when ranks are put in place. A lot of people don't even know that it is possible for this to happen.

More like you have a gym membership, drink some of the free water readily-given to you in the gyms, and then cancel your memberships.

That person who drank the water was not stealing it, since at the time they had a valid membership and the water was readily open and available to them.

[Zumi]

That's like saying if you have a gym membership you can take the equipment home, cancel your membership and its not stealing. How well do you think that would go over? It's people like this who do the whole victim blaming that allow this to continue.

The least SE could do is fix the promotion issue that allows someone to promote another person above their own rank. This is continually used to steal things from FCs when ranks are put in place. A lot of people don't even know that it is possible for this to happen.

No a better analogy is letting people stay at your house giving them access to your home safe where you keep your money and valuables. Moral of the story is don't give people access you don't trust.

[Noshpan]

You cannot steal something given to you.

Also, the character ID number is the same. If you really are concerned about people taking things out of the FC chest, write down the ID numbers of these problematic people and check it every so often. Eventually if they change a name it can circulate around so people know who to run out for.

Or do not put extremely expensive items in a FC chest that is accessed by members you do not know very well.

Screen better, limit better. What would you propose SE do? They cannot have a "take items back from member" function, that would be silly.

Isn't the Character ID number only available among Playstation users? I swear that I had read something awhile back that mentioned Character ID numbers but that it was only visible among those who play via the Playstation 3 & 4.

[Zumi]

Don't give bank access to people you don't trust.

[LalaRu]

Don't give bank access.

Fix'd for you.
Bank withdrawals are only on FC Master and if there is any reason to use, officers just can ask the Gil.
Then, until it gets fixed the part on which you can set other people to a rank higher yours, giving bank acces to any rank is same as giving it to everyone.