NIN Opener / Rotation

[Phireblast]

I just hit 47 and Doton is amazing in dd. but in my opinion ninja AOE is bad. I mean don't get me wrong I fcking lov the job but there AOE is not the to to if u want to b a ninja

How about waiting until level 48 for your Death blossom to be stronger?

[Butcherboy]

Yes it'll get stronger to 100 potency but that's nothing really to brag about

[Alistaire]

Yes it'll get stronger to 100 potency but that's nothing really to brag about

Not sure what you think other jobs do for aoe but here's some #'s:
MNK: 50, 0, 130, repeating, 170 off gcd every minute. NIN wins. (except perfect balance rockbreaker spam every 4 minutes @ 130 repeating)
BRD: 110 repeating, 35 dot up half the time, bonus if with a caster. Without caster involvement I'm sure it's close if not slightly less than nin.
DRG: 100 repeating unless neatly lined up, then 160 repeating but elevated tp cost. 250 off gcd every 2 minutes
SMN: kinda hard to calculate but goes down when there's 5+ mobs.
BLM: even the king of aoe is still mostly doing 100 potency hits a high amount of the time, just with things that boost it.

NIN aoe is just fine. Better than MNK and possibly preferable to all but BLM when paired with another melee and/or war tank.

[Qooo]

BLM aoe should be Fire II 180 potency and Flare 468 potency under Astral 3.

[treuhavik]

Now, idk if I'm just not getting matched with good BRDs, MNKs or DRGs, but I'm beating them all out on AoE pulls. All I'm doing is popping B4B and IR, spamming Death Blossom and weaving in my Katons/Kassatsu. TP obviously becomes a problem eventually but we may be wrong about NIN's AoE damage capability.

[Ehayte]

This thread is really intended to discuss the opening rotation on endgame content for a single target encounter.

The Suiton starter rot seems to be pretty close to ideal that was posted a few posts ago. I'm going to practice that one a bit tonight : D

I wish I had a parser!!!

[Butcherboy]

I just hit 50 and I'm 108 where is that suiton started rot, I can't find it. I'm checking all rot to see which I'm comfortable with

[ShaolinMike]

I'm sitting at i104 with only an atma weapon, but my DPS apparently is sub-par. With everyone reporting ridiculous DPS numbers, I'm wondering what weapon they're using. I was only able to pull about 237 in T7. Granted, that fight involves a bit of running around and switching between targets, but I'd like to know whether it's my weapon, or just a bad rotation that I'm using. Any input (minus the "git gud" comments) would be appreciated. Just trying to tell myself to stick with it and have faith that it'll get better once I get animus.

[SpecialKK]

I'm sitting at i104 with only an atma weapon, but my DPS apparently is sub-par. With everyone reporting ridiculous DPS numbers, I'm wondering what weapon they're using. I was only able to pull about 237 in T7. Granted, that fight involves a bit of running around and switching between targets, but I'd like to know whether it's my weapon, or just a bad rotation that I'm using. Any input (minus the "git gud" comments) would be appreciated. Just trying to tell myself to stick with it and have faith that it'll get better once I get animus.

I've done the same thing. I enjoy the mechanics of NIN,even with the mudras. But I just can't keep my DPS up with my dragoon (which, according to everyone, shouldn't be the case). I feel like there is a variable with when the pull is made based on where you are in Huton effect that if you hit the sweet spot, then everything falls in place and all your rotation/priority clicks.

I'm still fiddling with it (even some people from the FC trying to help me out with my rotation), but I can't just quite get it. Of course, I've been playing DRG for a year now so I have the rotation down pat. But with NIN, it feels like one mistake in my rotation throws my DPS down the dumps quickly...and that's not even factoring in delay of Mudra

[Cynric]

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Priority based pulling

Huton 70 -60 s : Start with Mutilate SE SF Option A Kassatsu into Suiton for Trick early, Option B Perform SE GS DE rotation and when mudra CD finishes > Suition TA and Kration are available
Huton 60- 65 s : Buff during SE GS DE Suiton > TA to apply DoT with all buffs and Kraiton
Huton 55 - 45 s : Suiton / pop buffs and TA as soon as possible then apply DoTs
Huton 40s or less : You should just reapply huton at this point buuuuut if you don't it's the same as 55-45 s

I'd like to note that this is only for bosses. for trash it doesn't matter as much.