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    There is no downside to a complete & accurate combat log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    There is no downside to a complete & accurate combat log.
    Yes there is. The social implications of having numbers with which to judge people, and the extreme potential of the tool being misused to promote elitist behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Yes there is. The social implications of having numbers with which to judge people, and the extreme potential of the tool being misused to promote elitist behaviour.
    The combat log is already there. Making it accurate & complete would do nothing to the current situation re:third-party tools other than making third-party tools accurate. They would still be third-party, still Fight Club. SE doesn't need to change a single thing about their stance or make any public statements on the subject in order to simply make their combat logs complete & accurate.

    Inaccurate/incomplete combat logs only increase the odds for stigmas, since the jobs that are heaviest in incomplete data (DoTs/pets, for example) appear to be performing worse than they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Yes there is. The social implications of having numbers with which to judge people, and the extreme potential of the tool being misused to promote elitist behaviour.
    {{Citation needed}}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    People are gonna get parsed ANYWAY, and if they suck, they might get kicked with no reason even given due to parsing being illegal. IF people HAD access to this tool, then they might be able to check their contribution to a fight.

    We all know when tanks or healers aren't up to scratch, why not dps? But adversely, a tank really knows when he messes up, and can seek advice and help. A dps could be throwing out terribad damage, and actually think he's doing great. THIS is unfair. I don't care about carebears happy dream fantasy land, I want people to be able to analyse themselves. Tanks and healers can do it ( obviously ) why exclude dps?

    And before ppl start raining tears " oh but ill get kicked because I have crap damage and cant be bothered to do anything about it"........well, tanks and healers get kicked everyday for not doing their job to some sort of acceptable level.
    here's a thought... maybe they should try reading the tool tips for their actions? maybe they should play more to gain experience? maybe ask questions when there are doubts. a DRG not using Heavy Thrust should either play an easier job or uninstall. since no jobs are easier then DRG...


    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    There is no downside to a complete & accurate combat log.
    i 100% agree. there are plenty of games out there with quite the detailed score card. i've been playing DCUO for over 2 years now. and have never heard anyone give anyone any greif over their end results. even if they are lower then average. instead i hear people giving advice on power loadouts or which weapon to use n such.
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