Let Players Speed Run Again

[Yumi_umi]

Wait woah there op, down boy.
If your feathers r so ruffled, why not grt some pro speed running buds and try and speed run the new dungeons and post ur pro run? I mean when brayflox speed runs became a thing, there were only a few ways to do it. But usually it'd be almost be the same run format as the last run/ group.
Then post the video/ guide on the forum and actually do something about you wanting to have fun and ur speedrunning fix.

But most likely it won't happen due to u being actually unskilled at SRs and all talk.
stop clinging to 1.0 and start living in 2.4.

Remember pre nerfed AK speed runs and those massive sac and pulls then revive at boss rooms?
Or the holy spam in WP Speed runs?
Stuff like that makes SE go like oops we should fix dat. So they did each time ppl thought of something new.
Spees runs only ruin the fun for others in the long run lol.

[MeganLynn]

ThirdChild_ZKI just shut this thread down! You're my new hero! And seriously, complaining because you have to spend a few extra minutes in a dungeon? Really? Kids these days make me weep for the future of humanity.

[MXMoondoggie]

New patch same problems. A group of people decide the law on dungeons and if they can't get their own way throw a fit. Half the time people wanting speed runs makes the whole experience take longer because there are arguments over kicking DPS A because he is not over geared for the dungeon or because the party just isn't good at speed runs. How many times have you been in a situation where the Tank pulls 10 mobs at a time and the Healer has to spam heal like crazy while the DPS slowly AoE them down? And i mean it's really slow to the point the Tank is being slaughtered for way too long. Other times either the Tank bites off more than they can chew or the Healer can't heal well enough to keep up. Speed runs work fine in a really good party who can work together but most of the time it's a mess. Kinda glad i took a long break from the game if i played through the Brayflox HM fiasco i would have quit forever.

Back when people were spamming AK/WP runs there were some horrible experiences. I don't mind a fast paced run with a group who can do it but in some cases i wish the Tank would just pull smaller groups at a time and allow me to DPS as a healer it'd be quicker.

[Recaldy]

Group of friends and I did Qarn HM with 2 bards nin and a sch and we did it quite easily granted we had decent gear. It was quite a lot of fun with maybe 1-2 deaths.

[RayneBoemir]

I don't like speed runs I don't enjoy spamming Flash or Overpower nonstop. I also think this is stressful on healers.

[Lucke]

I, as a tank, was kicked from a Sashashsahshshta party because I "wasn't pulling fast enough". Now, usually, I have no issues with SR, even though I hate doing them, I'll suck it up. I don't really care about the pace, I'm in no rush. But this was 2nd time in Sashashhashahsta and I wasn't near comfortable enough with a SR. Not only that, they never even mentioned they wanted a SR, they just sorta assumed I'd be okay with it. I didn't know how many mobs I could handle at once or anything. I've always hated SRs, now it's personal. Those people chose to boot the rarest role because they would rather go fast. Ironic since they would have been done before they actually managed to find a rep tank.

As another person said: The tank sets the pace. If they don't want to SR, either deal with it, leave, or be a tank yourself.

[RayneBoemir]

I am glad I enjoy tanking, but even if I didn't one of the reasons why I like it is that I set how fast the dungeon is to be completed. There is nothing I hate more than discourteous players imposing their own ideas of how to play. I remember I ran The Praetorium once I saw I had 3 people at least new in there watching cutscenes, and some asshat asked them to skip cutscenes. I just waited for them to finish cutscenes before pulling bosses. Hatali HM some healer kept pulling mobs because he "wanted to be given something to heal" instead of I don't know help dps. Really hate players like that.

[Snugglebutt]

I remember I ran The Praetorium once I saw I had 3 people at least new in there watching cutscenes, and some asshat asked them to skip cutscenes. I just waited for them to finish cutscenes before pulling bosses..

For that you deserve a cookie, I plan to do the same when DRK comes out and I make my first tank class. Sorry to those who want a SR but I will be pretty much always on the side of new players in this aspect when they are present. I care more about a new players first experience of a dungeon being pleasant and enjoyable than I do about an old player who lacks patience and compassion for the new players despite myself having run it many times before too.

I also would rather be hated by some older players who have run content a million times rather than ruin the fun of a new player experiencing content for the first time. The only time I will do SR is when no new players present and everyone says they want a quick run plus providing I feel confident enough to do so. If a healer tries to blackmail me by withholding heals if do not run it fast enough of which I have seen healers do in the past to other tanks, they will be vote kicked from the group.

[Jinrya-Geki]

You know just cause most of you people can't speed runs, doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

Most of you people don't even read anyway. You see the title and open you big mouths.

I want the choice to either do a speed run or slow pace. Well there's a god damn option for you to do so.

The new dungeons have boring mechanics. They are nothing special so why should they take anymore time than 10 minutes?

if I want to pull half the dungeon in one go I should. I can do that with my FC mates.

You can do the 30 minute runs while I do the 10 minute or less runs and have the same fun.

[Gralna]

You know just cause most of you people can't speed runs, doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

Most of you people don't even read anyway. You see the title and open you big mouths.

I want the choice to either do a speed run or slow pace. Well there's a god damn option for you to do so.

The new dungeons have boring mechanics. They are nothing special so why should they take anymore time than 10 minutes?

if I want to pull half the dungeon in one go I should. I can do that with my FC mates.

You can do the 30 minute runs while I do the 10 minute or less runs and have the same fun.

Because as others have stated, when given a choice, the community has shown it'll strong arm DF parties into doing speed runs, so the "choice" isn't really a choice. If they want to add an entirely different version of existing duties to be speed run, be my guest, as long as everyone is sharing the same duties though, it's better for majority to limit the pace they can be cleared.